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Subj: Re: New banner! How important was FRANK MILLER to 80s and 90s comics?
Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 at 05:39:16 am EST (Viewed 162 times)
Reply Subj: Re: New banner! How important was FRANK MILLER to 80s and 90s comics?
Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 at 10:04:25 pm EST (Viewed 162 times)



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    Correct, the Superman films, especially Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice. That film got both Batman AND Superman wrong. But as far as the old George Reeves series becoming childish, there are worse things that can happen to the character. That's having a Superman movie that you don't want your kids to see. That's what Snyder gave us with BvS. A Batman movie doesn't necessarily have to be kid friendly, but a Superman movie has to be. If a movie focuses on both of them, then it is both a Batman and Superman movie and by default has to be appropriate for children.


Only way to do it is to aim for a cartoon aesthetic. Take a cartoon script and produce it with live actors. Bruce Timm could so it.


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    It was for both grown-up and kids. I haven't watched the series for a while, so I'll take your word for it that it got more childish as it went further along. But I don't really fault the series for that. Everyone back in the fifties thought that comic books were for the kiddies.


Which seems weird since a lot of WW2 and Korean War soldiers were comic book fans.


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    I'm all for comics being something adults can enjoy, but if you don't have something kid friendly, you won't have kids reading comics. If kids don't enjoy comics, they probably won't be reading them (or watching their movies and TV shows) when they grow up.


I don't know if that last part is really true any more. There are cartoons, video games, toys and other merchandise galore. Look at DC's Super-Hero Girls, which I think is far and away the most effective marketing to girls we've ever seen from either company. Surely no one would say the intermittent comic books are driving this concept's success. It's all about the cartoon and the merchandise.







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