Dave Galanter
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Subj: Re: Halloween Roundup #2: Candyman / Children of the Corn / Child’s Play 2 / Child’s Play 3
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 at 06:44:43 pm EDT (Viewed 569 times)
Reply Subj: Halloween Roundup #2: Candyman / Children of the Corn / Child’s Play 2 / Child’s Play 3
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 at 05:02:49 pm EDT (Viewed 642 times)

    I haven’t seen this movie in a long time, and even then I had seen the sequel much more often. Virginia Madsen plays a college student doing a thesis on urban legends and decides to investigate the legend of the ghostly Candyman who haunts the Cabrini-Green housing projects in Chicago.

I think I saw at least part of this. I've never been much of a horror fan but the up front premise of this one is disturbing in a good way. Don't say his name five times! The notion of not daring to say the bad guy's name is archetypal, I think. It pops up in Lord of the Rings. It pops up in Harry Potter.

    The movie does a good job with pacing. We get a slow build but the slow beginning is peppered with anecdotal stories of the Candyman killing people so we get some action and scares up front. The investigation leads to a human killer who may be using Candyman’s m.o. to beef up his own street cred. Finally we meet the ghost himself. Scarier than the thought that he’s real is the fact that he is not only killing people but he is framing our heroine for the murders to turn everyone against her. He wants to sever all her connections to the human world so she will join him in the ghostly world as his bride.

I definitely failed to watch most of this. I don't remember the frame job at all.

    I have to say this movie is still pretty good. We were talking about strong female leads and Madsen does a very good job of that, at least for the first half of this movie. Unfortunately for the second half the plot forces her to question if what’s happening is real or if she has snapped and started killing her friends. She comes back for a stong finish though. Tony Todd is excellent as the Candyman, he definitely could have had a career solely as a voice actor if he’d wanted to.

If this weird and terrible stuff was happening to me, I think I would assume from the start that there was something supernatural going on. Or else, at the very least, I would assume some demented human being other than myself was to blame. I can't picture myself deciding I might be crazy. "If you think you're crazy - you're not." Nope, that motto wouldn't help me. I would never think I was crazy.

    Clive Barker wrote the short story this was based on, although I haven’t read it. He was burned out on directing after Hellraiser and Nightbreed so he didn’t direct this, but was present on set and was happy with how it turned out so it must have been close to the original concept. He’s definitely good at tapping into the dark side of humanity.

I liked Nightbreed. In fact I'd like to watch that again.

    Children of the Corn (1984) Trailer

    I grew up reading Stephen King books and especially liked the short stories, so I got around to seeing this movie by the ‘80s or 90s. A few years ago, for some odd reason, I collected all 8 movies in the series, most of which I’d never seen, and watched the whole marathon (there are now 10 movies in the franchise). For this viewing I just went back to the original.

I can't believe there are eight movies. I can barely believe there was one. Not my type of film.

    Knowing the general layout of King's short stories, you can tell where this is padded out for a feature length run time. I think the filmmakers wanted to make a parallel out of the children who worship He Who Walks Behind the Rows and religious cults led by those who seek power. The leaders in this case are Isaac and Malachai who end up disagreeing on the message of their savior and vie for control of the congregation. This makes it seem like it’s all a con for the power seekers, there must not be a real monster in the cornfield or else they could talk to him directly and the message would be clear, right? It all seems like a scam until the final act when the monster actually shows up. The effects are weak, to be sure, but they get the job done. Young Linda Hamilton shows promise. Peter Horton is not the strongest lead, but he has his moments. Overall I would say this film has not held up that well, but then it was always a mediocre adaptation.

Do we get to see the monster? Often I think it's a mistake to show the monster.

    Child’s Play 2 (1990) Trailer

    I wasn’t planning to watch more than the first installment of each of these series since the original is always superior to the sequels. But for some reason I decided to watch the Child’s Play sequels. Part 2 starts off with quite a pill for the audience to swallow: The Good Guys toy company has gotten their hands on the Chucky doll from the crime scene in the first movie and rebuilt it as a PR stunt to prove that there was nothing wrong with the doll (like a mischievous employee tampering with its pre-recorded voice clips or something). No sooner does that happen than does Chucky spring back to life and start offing the employees.

I never saw any of these films. But like everyone else in America, I know Chucky. He's one of the most iconic villains ever created. Here's his Wikipedia article:

You do a really good job of summarizing the movies.

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