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Menshevik

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Reverend Meteor

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Subj: Re: New banner! What 80s or 90s Carol Danvers moments -
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 at 06:44:20 am CST (Viewed 288 times)
Reply Subj: Re: New banner! What 80s or 90s Carol Danvers moments -
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 at 02:06:41 pm CST (Viewed 280 times)



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        I think the whole reason she hooked up with the Guardians of the Galaxy is because of her past with the Starjammers. That Guardians crew were nothing but Starjammers plagiarized to me.

      Could you perhaps elaborate? I find it hard to wrap my head around this claim given that not only the original Guardians of the Galaxy and their series, but also pretty much all prominent individual members of the later incarnation debuted long before the first appearance of the Starjammers. Not being that familiar with the modern Guardians I may be wrong, but the similarity does not seem to go that much further than "a group of aliens and humans having adventures in space" (which would also cover e.g. the LSH).


    Pretty sure he means the more modern DnA/Bendis and later iterations of the GotG with Star Lord, Gamora, Groot, Rocket etc not the original (but still quite lame) GotG with Vance Astro, Matrinex, Yondu, Charlie-27 etc.


Well, you may call them "lame", but the original incarnation least they managed to sustain a series of their own in the 1970s for ten issues (besides several guest appearances in Defenders, Avengers etc.) and the new one bacame successful in comics and movies while the Starjammers to this day never really overcame their tendency of riding along on the coattails of the X-books since their mythos is now so closely interwoven with that of the Summers family.


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    Which I still think is unfair. Clearly the modern Guardians of the Galaxy are ripping off Farscape more than anything \:\)



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    John Crichton ...pop culture aware human (Star Lord)
    Zhaan...alien plant creature/odd color (Groot/Gamora)
    D'argo...warrior (Drax)
    Rygel...small sarcastic creature (Rocket)
    Aeryn Sun...strong female looking for redemption (Gamora)

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Well, it often is easy to correlate members of one group to those of another (on another thread not that long ago I myself pointed out the obvious similarities between the original X-Men and the original Fantastic Four, which works very well despite the original X-Men consisting of six members, not four).

My problem is that I think the word "plagiarized" is too serious an accusations. I wouldn't have complained if Black Guardian had used words like "ripped off", "homaged", "channelled" or whatever. For instance, I would say that you can say that you are allowed say that the Daniel Craig James Bond movies channelled/homaged/imitated the successful Bourne pictures, but to say that they were "nothing but Jason Bourne plagiarized" is a no-no.

“If names be not correct, language is not in accordance with the truth of things. If language be not in accordance with the truth of things, affairs cannot be carried on to success. When affairs cannot be carried on to success, proprieties and music do not flourish.”
Confucius





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