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Subj: Re: Batman Returns is one of my favorite movies. I like this film as much as I like Nolan's Dark Knight Trilogy.
Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 at 03:15:09 am CST (Viewed 271 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Batman Returns is one of my favorite movies. I like this film as much as I like Nolan's Dark Knight Trilogy.
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 at 04:35:26 pm CST (Viewed 284 times)



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    Lon Chaney! Interesting...


Yes \:\-\)
https://www.batman-online.com/features/2008/7/26/classic-monsters-references-in-burtons-batman
https://www.batman-online.com/features/2012/8/26/cultural-allusions-in-batman-returns/3
https://www.batman-online.com/features/2017/1/30/cultural-allusions-in-batman-1989/3

Penguin was reinvented by Tim Burton as a living homage of the 1920s & 1930s freaks of horror movies (especially the Pre-Code Hollywood films like Tod Browning's Freaks).


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    A Tale of Two Cities! Interesting...


Yes, it is the text that Alfred reads when they wrongly believe that Bruce Wayne is dead at the end of the movie.

Also, the plan of Bane & Talia includes turning Gotham into a city reminiscent of the Paris of French Terror.


Nota Bene : I also noticed that the dance scenes of Batman Returns and Dark Knight Rises serve exactly the same purpose in the two movies.

The two directors probably sold the dance scenes to the producers as a courtship display but, in truth, they are much more subtle than that. In both cases, it is also a moment of truth.

Still, even if the two scenes look remarkably similar, they have opposite results.

In Batman Returns, Selina is revealed as an outlaw revenge seeker whose main goal is to murder Max Shreck in cold blood, even if it costs her any potential relationship with Bruce Wayne. Also, she no longer believes that she could ever be the fairytale princess in the castle of prince charming Bruce Wayne. After that, Selina seemingly dies and there is no happy ending for the doomed relationship of Batman & Catwoman. Still, Bruce Wayne has the feeling that she may not have died after all and the end of the movie reveals that it might be true.

In Dark Knight Rises, Selina is an outlaw pragmatist, despising the richest 1%, and ready to do what is necessary to remain free of societal constraints. At the end of the movie, Bruce seemingly dies but is still alive, actually. Free of the burden of Bruce Wayne and the responsibility of Batman, Bruce can start a new life with Selina Kyle.





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    Jack Nicholson's execution of that idea was equally brilliant. Even when I was against the movie for reasons I now find silly, I recognized the genius of Nicholson. Also I've always loved the Prince soundtrack.


I think that, in Batman Returns, Danny De Vito, Michelle Pfeiffer & Christopher Walken were brilliant as well. \:\-\)



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