Dave Galanter
December 1st 1969 - December 12th 2020
He was loved.

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dave

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richard

Subj: Re: "One More Day" speculation
Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 at 03:54:50 pm EDT
Reply Subj: Re: "One More Day" speculation
Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 at 12:09:55 pm EDT

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> > I just cannot believe, if it happens, that Peter would give up MJ
> > and his child(ren) to save Aunt May (Remember in ASM #500, the future
> > Peter says he has a son, Ben). How could he give up his wife and kids
> > for Aunt May? Sure, May has been important to him, but my God, what a
> > momma's boy. Unless....in ASM #500 by going back thru the timeline, he
>
> That's just a possible future. We've seen many possible futures for Pete over the years. It's not a sure thing and even if it was you couldn't let people die because you might end up with a better life because of it. I'm not sure why you'd be in favor of that anyway since Pete dies in a fight from the police at a relatively youngish age.
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> > affected the future already (possibly changing his current personality since then). Also, what other things were affected in ASM #500 by his invlovement in the past (i.e. not capturing Sandman, not delivering ISO36, not webbing Gwen)?
> >
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> He captured Sandman. He did everything the same. He just leaped out to another time before that happened. Besides, all time travel stories in the MU are pointless. Going back in time and changing the past doesn't affect your current timeline, only alternate timelines. This is pretty standard continuity in the MU and has been explained several times by Reed Richards.

I don't know if he did. He remarks about the vaccum cleaner where in ASM #4 he used it to capture Sandman, but we dont see it. Remember, it is stated in ASM #500 that he is actively participating in the timeline, not just watching it. Also, although he retrieves the ISO36,
Is it possible that May never got it, has no immunity to it now, and maybe current Peter's transfusion is what is harming her? Also, we see Gwen conscious in ASM #500, she falls, but Peter doesnt web her. Could she be alive? I dont know. But at the end of ASM #500, Dr Strange is told that he has affected things for himself that could make him more beatable. Why couldnt Peter's foray change his current situation or personality?
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> > But if it is the unmasking that he feels is causing all this trouble, then it would make sense to just go back to that point, and not unmask. May wouldnt have gotten shot, and he would still be married to MJ. Of course, other things would have happened differently, but I cant imagine May getting shot would have been one of them.
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> It might make for a good What If since it would have a big impact on Civil War, but, as I said before, Pete can't change things by going back in time. If he went back in time and changed his past then as time moved along Pete would have no reason to go back in time and perform the same function. Therefore, you would have a paradox. Hence it is only possible to change the future of another universe. Pete's only bet would be if an alternate reality version of himself went back in time and did this, but that's obviously not the case or none of this would have ever happened. If anything, Pete might have just run into a dupe of himself around that time and got an explanation.
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> Unless Marvel is ready to break continuity with all of their time travel stories and create a confusing paradox that can never be explained by later writers, time travel is not the answer. Think about it. If Pete goes back to stop the bullet from hitting may then his future self (who has a healthy May) would have no reason to go back in time and perform the same function. Hence, he wouldn't and May would die. It's impossible.
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> Magic, mind control, sure. No time travel please.


> I don't know if he did. He remarks about the vaccum cleaner where in ASM #4 he used it to capture Sandman, but we dont see it. Remember, it is stated in ASM #500 that he is actively participating in the timeline, not just watching it. Also, although he retrieves the ISO36,
> Is it possible that May never got it, has no immunity to it now, and maybe current Peter's transfusion is what is harming her? Also, we see Gwen conscious in ASM #500, she falls, but Peter doesnt web her. Could she be alive? I dont know. But at the end of ASM #500, Dr Strange is told that he has affected things for himself that could make him more beatable. Why couldnt Peter's foray change his current situation or personality?
> >

I get what you are saying but I think we were just supposed to assume that once Peter "lept" out of that timeline that his former self just finished the task as is. Basically, everything Peter did was what had already happened. He just doesn't remember being possessed by his future self for a few seconds. When you go back and read ASM #6 or one of those issues, let's just say that for one panel we ae looking at the future Spiderman. He can't change things because it already happened that way?

As for Doc Strange, that was a little odd sense at the end there were two of him. One was last in the time stream and the new one had no memory of anything. What I read from his comment was that now that he has tinkered with time he is vulnerable to having his time changed as well. Meaning, one of his enemies could go back and kill him as a child or something.

I hate time travel.



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