Previous Post OK now I'm getting annoyed. Tony's trying to make things right and still you lot have a go at him. Hulk smashed Iron Man - Wow what a suprise - he's taken down half the Marvel Universe with him - what do you expect. When Iron Man has beaten Hulk in the past it's taken all the power he can channel, has shut down his armour and nearly killed him, and that was when he was helping Banner - now Banner's fueling Hulks anger so nothing can stop him. (Expect the Sentry lol ) Thor's going to smash Iron Man - He's a freaking god for heaven's (no pun intended) sake who can open portals to other realms and has an indestrucible hammer - Tony's a guy in an alloy suit. Spiderman's beaten Iron Man - Wouldn't have happened if Tony was trying. I think Tony's feeling pretty wretched at the moment with the loss of a lot of his friends. I suspect the damage done to Tony by crappy writers trying to Hype Marvel sales is going to stay with him for years.

> Spiderman's beaten Iron Man - Wouldn't have happened if Tony was trying. I think Tony's feeling pretty wretched at the moment with the loss of a lot of his friends.
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> I suspect the damage done to Tony by crappy writers trying to Hype Marvel sales is going to stay with him for years.



I hate Iron Man and the SHRA!! Whoo hoo! I hope he gets beat by Forbush Man next!

Sorry...I just had to say that. But i'll square it up a little bit - First, if the damage done to Tony's character lasts for years, it'll be because Marvel made it so - much like people always getting on Hank Pym for being a wife beater after he's been rehabilitated for years now. Mostly, I think that if you took a real-world look at the SHRA, you'd realize that it's a violation of human rights and in direct defiance of the Constitution. Sacrificing the rights of a few - without choice of will or conscience of those whose rights are neglected - just so people can "feel safer" never held water to me. It's really a losing argument when you weigh it all - and the worst part for IM is that it looks like he manipulated events and controlled the whole process so that he could be the leader of the registered heroes. I feel for IM fans, I think he got a literary shaft in this whole thing - no matter how nobly he fights for the cause and with how much belief or conviction - SHRA is everything IM used to fight against. IM got sucked into the Bendis characterization vortex and has come out a little shrunken, in my opinion.

As for everyone whipping Tony in a fight lately, well, Marvel has gotta capitalize on current events. Seeing as how he's in every stinkin' book that comes out, he may as well take an occasional beating. I would argue that overconfidence, and severe underestimation of Spidey would get IM beaten 8 times out of 10. See the third issue of Avengers; Initiative to see Spidey outsmart War Machine as an appetizer to that theory...though he did have an answer for Pete in his own book during Civil War.

Hang in there. I have a suspicion that when all is said and done, Tony will be a Skrull double-agent or something - meaning that the Skrulls think he is one of them, but he is really the true Tony Stark, posing until he can find a way to defeat the upcoming Skrull invasion. Then everyone will be feeling the love for Tony again and all will be right in the tin-can-iverse.