Dave Galanter
December 1st 1969 - December 12th 2020
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Mr Honey Bunny

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PDT

Subj: Re: Would resurrecting Harry Osborn be a good idea?
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 at 08:35:34 pm EDT
Reply Subj: Re: Would resurrecting Harry Osborn be a good idea?
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 at 08:09:14 pm EDT

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> Yeah, it's my opinion that when you cripple a character like Flash (or any other main characters) and that you know you'll have your title cancelled (and even if it's not the case, not adressing it for a whole year is already bad in itself ...), that adressing it should prevail over the rest instead of writting stories you want to write. That is called respect to the readers.
> And I think I'm not alone to think that way.

No, I'm saying it's your opinion that the way he was dealing with it was bad.

> C'mon, are you serious ? 11 issues (even giving you credit for the 6 part arc that was forced into him by that "terrible" editor !) is not enough to get a chance ? How many years should have been necessary to adress Flash's case again ?

Okay...let's see. We saw Flash during the Doc Ock arc. Jenkins didn't see fit to deal with Flash during the Lizard arc, which was three issues long. Then there was #14, which didn't even star Spider-Man (so it would make no sense to show Flash in there) and was painted, so he likely wrote that long before he wrote many of the other issues (probably around the time Spectacular Spider-Man was starting) and had a clear idea of where he was going. Then came two issues, and then there was his final issue, which...well, was his final issue. There were many more important things going on than Flash's condition. Namely, the fact that...he was putting a close to a five year run on the title.

So, not counting the remaining issues of the Doc Ock story (since we saw Flash at the beginning of that arc, I believe it was) we went through five non-consecutive issues and stories where Flash wasn't dealt with. I don't see what's wrong with that. He could have had Flash appear on every single issue that was written under his own conditions, but if it didn't feel right to him, well that's that. This goes back to what I mentioned earlier about writers going at their own pace. It was very clear that Jenkins wanted to resolve the Flash plot thread, but he was doing it like that - at his own pace, and then he had it all cut short after the title got canned. You might not think that pace was good and all that, and that's fine and your prerogative.

> > Yeah, it's my opinion that when you cripple a character like Flash (or any other main characters) and that you know you'll have your title cancelled (and even if it's not the case, not adressing it for a whole year is already bad in itself ...), that adressing it should prevail over the rest instead of writting stories you want to write. That is called respect to the readers.
> > And I think I'm not alone to think that way.
>
> No, I'm saying it's your opinion that the way he was dealing with it was bad.
>

No, I'm saying the fact HE DID NOT DEAL with it was bad ! ;->

> > C'mon, are you serious ? 11 issues (even giving you credit for the 6 part arc that was forced into him by that "terrible" editor !) is not enough to get a chance ? How many years should have been necessary to adress Flash's case again ?
>
> Okay...let's see. We saw Flash during the Doc Ock arc. Jenkins didn't see fit to deal with Flash during the Lizard arc, which was three issues long. Then there was #14, which didn't even star Spider-Man (so it would make no sense to show Flash in there) and was painted, so he likely wrote that long before he wrote many of the other issues (probably around the time Spectacular Spider-Man was starting) and had a clear idea of where he was going. Then came two issues, and then there was his final issue, which...well, was his final issue. There were many more important things going on than Flash's condition. Namely, the fact that...he was putting a close to a five year run on the title.
>

What did prevent Jenkins from using Flash during the 4 other parts of the Dock Ock arc ?
What did prevent Jenkins from using Flash during the 3 parts Lizard arc ?
Wasn't it a best choice for Jenkins to use Flash in Spectacular Spider-Man 14 rather than the guy we see in a wheelchair here ? (And Spidey's in it !)
Was spidey playing poker a "more important thing" than Flash's condition ?
Was an issue adressing Mindworm's condition prevailed over Flash's ?
How did Jenkins managed to not adress Flash's condition during his last story; as it's maybe the most important event of all his run; while he even had space to adress a piece of cheese' condition ? *rhe* (And about all the other characters he used during his run)

And, most of all : Why, by the power of the eye of Agamotto, is he able to use Flash for about 9 issues, and not continuing it for the following 11's ?


> So, not counting the remaining issues of the Doc Ock story (since we saw Flash at the beginning of that arc, I believe it was) we went through five non-consecutive issues and stories where Flash wasn't dealt with. I don't see what's wrong with that. He could have had Flash appear on every single issue that was written under his own conditions, but if it didn't feel right to him, well that's that. This goes back to what I mentioned earlier about writers going at their own pace. It was very clear that Jenkins wanted to resolve the Flash plot thread, but he was doing it like that - at his own pace, and then he had it all cut short after the title got canned. You might not think that pace was good and all that, and that's fine and your prerogative.

To make it short : If his pace is to not use Flash from January 2004 to June 2005 (!!)... I can hardly call it a "good" pace, yeah !

I don't know why, but a writer that is not using one of the main characters for like a year and a half after having crippled him, to me, it sounds bad ! lol


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