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Blargh

In Reply To
Jeremiah Ecks

Subj: Re: I am going to go with the Punisher.
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 at 01:23:45 pm EDT
Reply Subj: Re: I am going to go with the Punisher.
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 at 10:40:11 am EDT

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> Captain America only has peak human abilities, not super.

But his ability means that he is near practically perfect. No other human can reach that perfection, not even Batman or Punisher, why is why the Super Soldier serum is so special. So Cap is a bit of a 'naughty' example.

>Apart from his heightened senses and radar sense, Daredevil is normal.

I was always under the impression that all of his senses were heightened, and therefore, since his sense of touch was heightened, he has super-strength? Correct me if I'm wrong. I've just never regarded Daredevil with normal level strength ability.

> Bullseye, Elektra, and the Kingpin are all non-powered.

Until we find out Bullseye is a Mutant, like Taskmaster. ;\) Actually, Taskmaster is a good example also of a non-powered bad guy... until the dreaded retcon.
Elektra... she has ninja abilities to make up for it. She can actually psychically transfer her mind from place to place and influence people telepathically. She can, I think, also teleport, or am I wrong? In essence, Elektra has learned enough supernatural arts to no longer classify as 'non-powered'.
The Kingpin has always bothered me as there is simply no natural way for anybody to be as built and as fast as Fisk is. I've always secrely suspected him to be a Mutant.

>Even in the spider verse, Black Cat's only power was her latent bad-luck mutation, and that hasn't been used in a very long time, right? Everything else is from technology.

Felicia lost her powers for a while thanks to the Chameleon and never regained them. All of her current powers are from the Tinkerer, but I suspect in one retcon or another she's recovered either her old powers or gained some new ones. But yes, I remember Felicia making a jump straight up in the air and finding it difficult to suspend my disbelief at that point.

Back onto Punisher, that man once went toe to toe with Venom... now that's stretching credibility.

-Jeremiah Ecks,
who will defend Batman as the only example of a human being able to stand up to whomever he damn well pleases...



> But his ability means that he is near practically perfect. No other human can reach that perfection, not even Batman or Punisher, why is why the Super Soldier serum is so special. So Cap is a bit of a 'naughty' example.



I'll grant you that. But it makes it a bit harder to believe when some super-powered villain appears and Cap somehow beats him without much trouble.



> I was always under the impression that all of his senses were heightened, and therefore, since his sense of touch was heightened, he has super-strength? Correct me if I'm wrong. I've just never regarded Daredevil with normal level strength ability.



His sense of touch is indeed heightened, but strength is not a sense. Daredevil rarely takes on super-powered beings without the assistance of other heroes. He is a master in many martial arts, but his strength, like many in the MU, is someone for his age, weight, and height who engages in regular, extensive exercise.





> Until we find out Bullseye is a Mutant, like Taskmaster. ;\) Actually, Taskmaster is a good example also of a non-powered bad guy... until the dreaded retcon.



I'm not too familiar with Taskmaster. Care to tell?



> Elektra... she has ninja abilities to make up for it. She can actually psychically transfer her mind from place to place and influence people telepathically. She can, I think, also teleport, or am I wrong? In essence, Elektra has learned enough supernatural arts to no longer classify as 'non-powered'.



Ninja abilities are still just that, abilities. She had to train to be that good, like Cap, Bucky, or any other number of experts in martial arts in the MU.



I've never heard of the teleport, but I have heard and read her influencing people. I like to toss that up to an intimidation in training to battle rather than a genuine super ability. Otherwise, how'd she get it? Bitten by a telepathic spider?



> The Kingpin has always bothered me as there is simply no natural way for anybody to be as built and as fast as Fisk is. I've always secrely suspected him to be a Mutant.



It really depends on who is writing him. He isn't FAST, per say, but whenever someone encounters him, they think they'll be able to just run circles. I think agile is a better word, since he has been shown in many comics in the weight room or practicing with his body guards. I wouldn't put it beyond Fisk to be using steroids or MGH, but that's just speculation on my part.



> Felicia lost her powers for a while thanks to the Chameleon and never regained them. All of her current powers are from the Tinkerer, but I suspect in one retcon or another she's recovered either her old powers or gained some new ones. But yes, I remember Felicia making a jump straight up in the air and finding it difficult to suspend my disbelief at that point.



Yeah, they all have unreasonable scenes of power. During the '90s, Spider-Man picked up a building and tossed it with one finger.



> Back onto Punisher, that man once went toe to toe with Venom... now that's stretching credibility.



I'm guessing he used a flamethrower.


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