Dave Galanter
December 1st 1969 - December 12th 2020
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Dave Phelps

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Subj: Re: *sigh*
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 at 01:21:50 pm EST
Reply Subj: Re: *sigh*
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 at 01:10:12 pm EST

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> > > I couldn't believe how much positive, creative energy was in this issue. Knocking out the stability of marriage creates a sort of manic electricity to the Parker character.
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> > I'm sorry but at the risk of a minor flame you sound like an idiot here. If you are going to go around the board defending BND at every turn that's fine. If you then enjoy BND when you read it that's great. But to post something like the above and then turn around and accuse everyone else of being a reactionary (when you are obviously being one in the opposite direction) just makes you look foolish.
> I agree with his statement about the marriage bringing a stability to the character that changed his stories drastically. While he may be a bit enthusiastic, he certainly didn't sound like an idiot. There is truth to the statement that a healthy marriage has a comforting effect to it due to the sense of stability it allows.

I don't buy that for one second in that this entire story could have been told wiht a married Peter. Further the "comfort of a marriage" is really just that of a relationship. So if your argument is that Peter should never be in a relationship that's one thing but I don't think that is what you are saying.

As for Victor, I'm sorry but he's been trolling all week. Its one thing to be happy with BND but he specifically writes post (see the above one) designed to aggitate those who are against it. He's gotten as good as he's given but its still trolling and if he's going to accuse someone like me of being reactionary and then turned around and give the most reactionary post I've read on this board in a while, I'm going to call him on it.

Hypocrisy sounds idiotic in my opinion, if you don't feel that way its certainly your right.

> I don't buy that for one second in that this entire story could have been told wiht a married Peter.

That I agree with. Obviously not the part where he was about to hit on the girl with glasses, but I can see the rest of it working.

> Further the "comfort of a marriage" is really just that of a relationship.

Yes and no.

In real life, marriage is more secure than just "a relationship" because there tends to be a lot more involved with ending a marriage. If I split up with my wife, at least one of us would have to move, there'd be legal fees, mundane stuff like having to split our stuff, how to tell our families, etc. But if I were to split up with my mistress ( ;\-\) ), then it would be a lot easier. We just say we're done and that's that.

In serialized storytelling, you're basically right. Married or no, chances are we'd never see Lois tell Clark to "piss off" for good. And I fully expect to see MJ in her old position (not necessarily married) someday. And from then on, any fallings out will be temporary and that'll be that.

All that said, I think Victor is more than a little overenthusiastic, but it's not like us pro-marriage people haven't had our fair share of melodrama. If he's that happy that they're doing a "will they or won't they" story in Amazing, so be it. I wish he'd stop acting like everything else in this issue couldn't have been done with a married Spider-Man, but he's hardly the only one.

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