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Doc Shallot

In Reply To
xanderharris

Subj: If it was needed for a long time, why didn't anyone tell JMS?
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 at 06:46:12 pm EST
Reply Subj: Ed Brubaker's thoughts on OMD/BND
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 at 05:25:13 pm EST (Viewed 1 times)

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He makes some really good points.

"I've said this to a bunch of fans at this point, so I'll repeat it again... I don't care how they get there, the Brand New Day Spider-man is something that's been needed for a long long time. Marrying Peter and MJ was a huge mistake and not even the people who wrote the books back then thought it was a good idea, they were just forced to do it by Shooter.

And every single creative team since then has wished it never happened, but just sort of rolled with it, because getting rid of it was not easy. They didn't all try to get rid of the marriage, but you would be hard-pressed to find anyone who wrote Spider man that wouldn't have rather written the pre-marriage version of the character. And regardless of what Erik Larsen is apparently saying on newsarama, I have spoken to all the Spiderman writers of BND, and they are all completely thrilled about what they have to work with now.

The thing is, after years and years of the marriage, changing it is just a HUGE DEAL, and was never going to be a popular thing even if in the end we get a more "Spiderman" book out of it. Because it had years of continuity now, and getting rid of that in any way is going to anger fans.

Look at the Clone storyline, that was all started to get rid of the marriage somehow, but it was terrible, and it didn't stick.

It's not that a story about a married couple can't be interesting, it's that Peter Parker shouldn't be that guy. It takes him too far from the basic idea of what being Spiderman is about.

A true Spiderman story, to me, is Peter and MJ about to get married, and him having to leave her at the alter because of some Spiderman thing, and it being a huge tragedy that being Spidey cost him his chance at a happy married life. That's the burden of being Spiderman, and since the marriage happened, it's been one thing after another removing the burden and responsibility from Spiderman.

I'm personally really excited about the new stuff, but then I've been very vocal in the past about not liking the marriage because as a life-long Spiderman reader up to that point, it just felt forced and wrong."

> He makes some really good points.
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> "I've said this to a bunch of fans at this point, so I'll repeat it again... I don't care how they get there, the Brand New Day Spider-man is something that's been needed for a long long time. Marrying Peter and MJ was a huge mistake and not even the people who wrote the books back then thought it was a good idea, they were just forced to do it by Shooter.

Hey, Bru's entitled to his point of view. He's a great writer and some of what he says I agree with. But if everyone at Marvel knew that the marriage had to go and the EIC was the main advocate of that point of view, then why in the world did JMS, if anything, strengthen the marriage and the family theme? Why didn't Quesada yell "Stop Joe! Your killing Spider-man". But he didn't. Well, maybe on Newsarama and conventions he whined and complained about how he was trapped in a no-win situation. Sales increased though. Quesada ranted and raved about how JMS's run will go down in history. Then on JMS's way out Quesada states "Thanks Joe, great run and all but we really think we need a complete change in philosophy and, by the way, we're changing your script". Talk about being forced to do something by your EIC...

I say all of this as someone who was never a fan of JMS's work.

So Bru may not care how it happened, but I think maybe he should. Make sure your ideas and scripts are in line with what the Q-Man wants because there are larger issues than whether or not Peter is married. How they got there does matter, and lets hope some future EIC doesn't think that bringing Bucky back ruined Cap. Maybe Cap, Sharon and their bastard child will make a deal with a cosmic cube-wielding Red Skull to fix it all.


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