Subj: Re: A late 60s/early 70s fanboy thinks Spider-Man is better single. I'm shocked.Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 at 08:07:52 pm EST
Reply Subj: Ed Brubaker's thoughts on OMD/BND
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 at 05:25:13 pm EST (Viewed 1 times)
He makes some really good points.
"I've said this to a bunch of fans at this point, so I'll repeat it again... I don't care how they get there, the Brand New Day Spider-man is something that's been needed for a long long time. Marrying Peter and MJ was a huge mistake and not even the people who wrote the books back then thought it was a good idea, they were just forced to do it by Shooter.
And every single creative team since then has wished it never happened, but just sort of rolled with it, because getting rid of it was not easy. They didn't all try to get rid of the marriage, but you would be hard-pressed to find anyone who wrote Spider man that wouldn't have rather written the pre-marriage version of the character. And regardless of what Erik Larsen is apparently saying on newsarama, I have spoken to all the Spiderman writers of BND, and they are all completely thrilled about what they have to work with now.
The thing is, after years and years of the marriage, changing it is just a HUGE DEAL, and was never going to be a popular thing even if in the end we get a more "Spiderman" book out of it. Because it had years of continuity now, and getting rid of that in any way is going to anger fans.
Look at the Clone storyline, that was all started to get rid of the marriage somehow, but it was terrible, and it didn't stick.
It's not that a story about a married couple can't be interesting, it's that Peter Parker shouldn't be that guy. It takes him too far from the basic idea of what being Spiderman is about.
A true Spiderman story, to me, is Peter and MJ about to get married, and him having to leave her at the alter because of some Spiderman thing, and it being a huge tragedy that being Spidey cost him his chance at a happy married life. That's the burden of being Spiderman, and since the marriage happened, it's been one thing after another removing the burden and responsibility from Spiderman.
I'm personally really excited about the new stuff, but then I've been very vocal in the past about not liking the marriage because as a life-long Spiderman reader up to that point, it just felt forced and wrong."
> It's not that a story about a married couple can't be interesting, it's that Peter Parker shouldn't be that guy. It takes him too far from the basic idea of what being Spiderman is about.
Statements like that depend a lot on what exactly you feel Spider-Man is "supposed to be about." For someone like me who thinks of him as "the normal guy superhero," marriage is a perfectly acceptable move.
Not to mention when you have a status quo in place for almost half of the existance of the character, that becomes part of "what the character is all about" - particularly since it informs any other incarnation of the character.
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- He's entitled ot his opinion · jwd · Thu Jan 10, 2008 at 06:59:17 pm EST
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