Dave Galanter
December 1st 1969 - December 12th 2020
He was loved.

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jeffgamer

Subj: Re: As much as I like Brubaker's Captain America and Daredevil ...
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 at 09:10:24 pm EST
Reply Subj: Re: As much as I like Brubaker's Captain America and Daredevil ...
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 at 06:41:46 pm EST

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> > A true Spiderman story, to me, is Peter and MJ about to get married, and him having to leave her at the alter because of some Spiderman thing, and it being a huge tragedy that being Spidey cost him his chance at a happy married life. That's the burden of being Spiderman, and since the marriage happened, it's been one thing after another removing the burden and responsibility from Spiderman.
> >
>
> I have to disagree with him completely on that point.
>
> What's the point of reading the same stories over and over again ? If we know how it will always ends up, what's the point ?
>
> Ten years ago, the magic was to wonder if MJ and Peter will be parents.
> Twenty years ago, the magic was to wonder if MJ and Peter will get married.
> Now, there's no more magic on here ... oh well, yeah "it's magic". Yeah, we still have "this" one.
> But we know how it will always ends.
>
> And Brubaker is maybe not fit for Spider-Man after all. (Noticed how he is writting "Spiderman" for a supposed Spider-Man fan ? ... :-@ )
> As much as he is good on Captain and Daredevil, he is not that great with Uncanny X-Men for exemple IMHO.
>
> And, quoting Madgoblin :
>
> "But in summary, I have been reading Spider-Man comics for over 30 years, and the LEAST interesting part of the Spider-Man mythos to me, (and yes, I realize I may be singular in this opinion), even before I was a teenager, was Peter Parker’s trials with women. Maybe I am unique in that situation, but I found the typical “Parker luck” with women to be as boring as Aunt May’s recurring heart attacks."
>
> I completely agree with that.
>

Y'know, I'm sick and tired of some writers and editors saying, "But Spider-man is SUPPOSED to be [insert cookie-cutter mold here]." What a load of bleep. People grow. Characters grow. I liked Spidey the way he was before he was married. But my love for him deepened when the character matured into a marriage. And deepened more over the ensuing two decades. Erasing all of that to go back to what some people deem are the "glory days" or "true Spider-man" is erasing a huge chunk of what has made me so committed to this character over the years. I defined myself in high school by racquetball and studies. I defined myself in college by the magazine for which I was editor, my studies, and my friends. I define myself in my current life stage by my wife, my son, and my career. Jeffgamer in high school was a different beast than Jeffgamer in college than Jeffgamer in his post-college life. So, too, is Peter Parker...except in the minds of too many creators who seem to think that the definition of a character must remain mired in ages that have been part of the dustbins of the past for over 20 years.

They've ruined Spider-man for me. And for a lot of other readers. And I will - NOT - return to Spider-man as long as the marriage and the character development of the past 20 years remains absent. When they restore that ADULT RELATIONSHIP, they'll restore my readership.

But, then again, Joe Quesada has already made it clear that he doesn't give a rat's tail about long-time readers. He already told us to kiss off. I hope most of them join me in accepting that invitation.

> >
> > > A true Spiderman story, to me, is Peter and MJ about to get married, and him having to leave her at the alter because of some Spiderman thing, and it being a huge tragedy that being Spidey cost him his chance at a happy married life. That's the burden of being Spiderman, and since the marriage happened, it's been one thing after another removing the burden and responsibility from Spiderman.
> > >
> >
> > I have to disagree with him completely on that point.
> >
> > What's the point of reading the same stories over and over again ? If we know how it will always ends up, what's the point ?
> >
> > Ten years ago, the magic was to wonder if MJ and Peter will be parents.
> > Twenty years ago, the magic was to wonder if MJ and Peter will get married.
> > Now, there's no more magic on here ... oh well, yeah "it's magic". Yeah, we still have "this" one.
> > But we know how it will always ends.
> >
> > And Brubaker is maybe not fit for Spider-Man after all. (Noticed how he is writting "Spiderman" for a supposed Spider-Man fan ? ... :-@ )
> > As much as he is good on Captain and Daredevil, he is not that great with Uncanny X-Men for exemple IMHO.
> >
> > And, quoting Madgoblin :
> >
> > "But in summary, I have been reading Spider-Man comics for over 30 years, and the LEAST interesting part of the Spider-Man mythos to me, (and yes, I realize I may be singular in this opinion), even before I was a teenager, was Peter Parker’s trials with women. Maybe I am unique in that situation, but I found the typical “Parker luck” with women to be as boring as Aunt May’s recurring heart attacks."
> >
> > I completely agree with that.
> >
>
> Y'know, I'm sick and tired of some writers and editors saying, "But Spider-man is SUPPOSED to be [insert cookie-cutter mold here]." What a load of bleep. People grow. Characters grow. I liked Spidey the way he was before he was married. But my love for him deepened when the character matured into a marriage. And deepened more over the ensuing two decades. Erasing all of that to go back to what some people deem are the "glory days" or "true Spider-man" is erasing a huge chunk of what has made me so committed to this character over the years. I defined myself in high school by racquetball and studies. I defined myself in college by the magazine for which I was editor, my studies, and my friends. I define myself in my current life stage by my wife, my son, and my career. Jeffgamer in high school was a different beast than Jeffgamer in college than Jeffgamer in his post-college life. So, too, is Peter Parker...except in the minds of too many creators who seem to think that the definition of a character must remain mired in ages that have been part of the dustbins of the past for over 20 years.
>
> They've ruined Spider-man for me. And for a lot of other readers. And I will - NOT - return to Spider-man as long as the marriage and the character development of the past 20 years remains absent. When they restore that ADULT RELATIONSHIP, they'll restore my readership.
>
> But, then again, Joe Quesada has already made it clear that he doesn't give a rat's tail about long-time readers. He already told us to kiss off. I hope most of them join me in accepting that invitation.

Maybe he gave a rats tail about the long-time readers who left the book because they were tired of the marriage and don't want to see a midlife Spidey, don't want to see the inevitable chasing the wall crawling baby through the city while fighting the vultre story, or the further destruction of Mary Jane as a fun and interesting character. My point is hate reading this "JoeQ doesn't care about the long time readers" garbage. I'm a long time reader and to me it seems he does give a damn.


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