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Doc Shallot

Subj: Re: If it was needed for a long time, why didn't anyone tell JMS?
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 at 09:49:45 pm EST
Reply Subj: If it was needed for a long time, why didn't anyone tell JMS?
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 at 06:46:12 pm EST

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> He makes some really good points.
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> "I've said this to a bunch of fans at this point, so I'll repeat it again... I don't care how they get there, the Brand New Day Spider-man is something that's been needed for a long long time. Marrying Peter and MJ was a huge mistake and not even the people who wrote the books back then thought it was a good idea, they were just forced to do it by Shooter.

Hey, Bru's entitled to his point of view. He's a great writer and some of what he says I agree with. But if everyone at Marvel knew that the marriage had to go and the EIC was the main advocate of that point of view, then why in the world did JMS, if anything, strengthen the marriage and the family theme? Why didn't Quesada yell "Stop Joe! Your killing Spider-man". But he didn't. Well, maybe on Newsarama and conventions he whined and complained about how he was trapped in a no-win situation. Sales increased though. Quesada ranted and raved about how JMS's run will go down in history. Then on JMS's way out Quesada states "Thanks Joe, great run and all but we really think we need a complete change in philosophy and, by the way, we're changing your script". Talk about being forced to do something by your EIC...

I say all of this as someone who was never a fan of JMS's work.

So Bru may not care how it happened, but I think maybe he should. Make sure your ideas and scripts are in line with what the Q-Man wants because there are larger issues than whether or not Peter is married. How they got there does matter, and lets hope some future EIC doesn't think that bringing Bucky back ruined Cap. Maybe Cap, Sharon and their bastard child will make a deal with a cosmic cube-wielding Red Skull to fix it all.


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> > He makes some really good points.
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> > "I've said this to a bunch of fans at this point, so I'll repeat it again... I don't care how they get there, the Brand New Day Spider-man is something that's been needed for a long long time. Marrying Peter and MJ was a huge mistake and not even the people who wrote the books back then thought it was a good idea, they were just forced to do it by Shooter.
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> Hey, Bru's entitled to his point of view. He's a great writer and some of what he says I agree with. But if everyone at Marvel knew that the marriage had to go and the EIC was the main advocate of that point of view, then why in the world did JMS, if anything, strengthen the marriage and the family theme?

So Mary Jane would be in place to make the deal. Quesada and others have said several times that everything in JMS's run helped to set up One More Day.

>Why didn't Quesada yell "Stop Joe! Your killing Spider-man". But he didn't. Well, maybe on Newsarama and conventions he whined and complained about how he was trapped in a no-win situation. Sales increased though. Quesada ranted and raved about how JMS's run will go down in history. Then on JMS's way out Quesada states "Thanks Joe, great run and all but we really think we need a complete change in philosophy and, by the way, we're changing your script". Talk about being forced to do something by your EIC...
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> I say all of this as someone who was never a fan of JMS's work.
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> So Bru may not care how it happened, but I think maybe he should. Make sure your ideas and scripts are in line with what the Q-Man wants

OR you could just write the story you agree to write when your among all the other parties involved. JMS decided to write what he wanted after agreeing to write it a differant way. If he had issues with it, there was a time and place to bring those issues up. JMS's last minute change of plot would have screwed over every single other creator involved in the planning of the next year's worth of stories. I think that is VERY selfish and i don't see how Quesada and Marvel can be blamed for JMS lying.
I see this being portrayed as Marvel Stepping in and rewriting JMS's ending. JMS was in on the planning of the entire story! He could have raised his issues at any time! He agreed to all of it and the other writers went off to work. Then he decided he didn't like certain aspects of it and threw out the entire plot. He Lied and attempted to screw everyone over on a book that he was leaving. No one even knew what he was writing until Quesada was halfway through drawing part three. Straczynski was clearly in the wrong by doing this.

>because there are larger issues than whether or not Peter is married. How they got there does matter, and lets hope some future EIC doesn't think that bringing Bucky back ruined Cap. Maybe Cap, Sharon and their bastard child will make a deal with a cosmic cube-wielding Red Skull to fix it all.
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