Dave Galanter
December 1st 1969 - December 12th 2020
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Menshevik

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cd

Subj: Re: As much as I like Brubaker's Captain America and Daredevil ...
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 at 04:52:08 am EST
Reply Subj: Re: As much as I like Brubaker's Captain America and Daredevil ...
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 at 09:10:24 pm EST

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> > > A true Spiderman story, to me, is Peter and MJ about to get married, and him having to leave her at the alter because of some Spiderman thing, and it being a huge tragedy that being Spidey cost him his chance at a happy married life. That's the burden of being Spiderman, and since the marriage happened, it's been one thing after another removing the burden and responsibility from Spiderman.
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> > I have to disagree with him completely on that point.
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> > What's the point of reading the same stories over and over again ? If we know how it will always ends up, what's the point ?
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> > Ten years ago, the magic was to wonder if MJ and Peter will be parents.
> > Twenty years ago, the magic was to wonder if MJ and Peter will get married.
> > Now, there's no more magic on here ... oh well, yeah "it's magic". Yeah, we still have "this" one.
> > But we know how it will always ends.
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> > And Brubaker is maybe not fit for Spider-Man after all. (Noticed how he is writting "Spiderman" for a supposed Spider-Man fan ? ... :-@ )
> > As much as he is good on Captain and Daredevil, he is not that great with Uncanny X-Men for exemple IMHO.
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> > And, quoting Madgoblin :
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> > "But in summary, I have been reading Spider-Man comics for over 30 years, and the LEAST interesting part of the Spider-Man mythos to me, (and yes, I realize I may be singular in this opinion), even before I was a teenager, was Peter Parker’s trials with women. Maybe I am unique in that situation, but I found the typical “Parker luck” with women to be as boring as Aunt May’s recurring heart attacks."
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> > I completely agree with that.
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> Y'know, I'm sick and tired of some writers and editors saying, "But Spider-man is SUPPOSED to be [insert cookie-cutter mold here]." What a load of bleep. People grow. Characters grow. I liked Spidey the way he was before he was married. But my love for him deepened when the character matured into a marriage. And deepened more over the ensuing two decades. Erasing all of that to go back to what some people deem are the "glory days" or "true Spider-man" is erasing a huge chunk of what has made me so committed to this character over the years. I defined myself in high school by racquetball and studies. I defined myself in college by the magazine for which I was editor, my studies, and my friends. I define myself in my current life stage by my wife, my son, and my career. Jeffgamer in high school was a different beast than Jeffgamer in college than Jeffgamer in his post-college life. So, too, is Peter Parker...except in the minds of too many creators who seem to think that the definition of a character must remain mired in ages that have been part of the dustbins of the past for over 20 years.
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> They've ruined Spider-man for me. And for a lot of other readers. And I will - NOT - return to Spider-man as long as the marriage and the character development of the past 20 years remains absent. When they restore that ADULT RELATIONSHIP, they'll restore my readership.
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> But, then again, Joe Quesada has already made it clear that he doesn't give a rat's tail about long-time readers. He already told us to kiss off. I hope most of them join me in accepting that invitation.

Maybe he gave a rats tail about the long-time readers who left the book because they were tired of the marriage and don't want to see a midlife Spidey, don't want to see the inevitable chasing the wall crawling baby through the city while fighting the vultre story, or the further destruction of Mary Jane as a fun and interesting character. My point is hate reading this "JoeQ doesn't care about the long time readers" garbage. I'm a long time reader and to me it seems he does give a damn.

> Maybe he gave a rats tail about the long-time readers who left the book because they were tired of the marriage and don't want to see a midlife Spidey, don't want to see the inevitable chasing the wall crawling baby through the city while fighting the vultre story, or the further destruction of Mary Jane as a fun and interesting character. My point is hate reading this "JoeQ doesn't care about the long time readers" garbage. I'm a long time reader and to me it seems he does give a damn.

Well, he seems to be very much like one of the readers you describe. And I would respect him a little more if he admitted that it is these disgruntled old ex-readers he wants to please rather than feeding us this line about attracting new readers.


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