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stillanerd

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clayton

Subj: So then...
Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 02:42:56 am EDT

Reply Subj: Sorry...
Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 01:59:20 am EDT

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> But if you're going to be loud and outspoken to creators who had nothing to do with the story for over a year...
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> don't be surprised when they A) stop taking you seriously and B) start answering with quips instead of making genuine arguments like they did directly following OMD.
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> And there is a grain of sense there. If you perceive a civil union as marriage, then yes, by living together for 5+ years, Peter and MJ were still married in a legal sense.
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> The only way anyone loses anything is if you view marriage as something that has to do with a ceremony, perhaps in a church. That didn't happen anymore. The former did.
>

A) If there was no difference between Peter and MJ getting married and them getting a civil union, then why then did Marvel, and specifically the story itself, make such a big deal out of One More Day?

B) Guggenheim is still making a fallacious argument by saying that if A, then B; if not A, then not B.

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- Update · stillanerd · Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 02:58:13 pm EDT
  - Re: Update · Pengi · Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 03:21:35 pm EDT
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- Dear Internet: Reading comprehension. PLEASE! · Pengi · Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 02:08:42 pm EDT
  - I'm pretty sure your post just made my brain bleed. · Andrew C · Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 02:27:14 pm EDT
    - Re: I'm pretty sure your post just made my brain bleed. · Pengi · Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 02:31:48 pm EDT
  - Re: Dear Internet: Reading comprehension. PLEASE! · stillanerd · Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 02:24:34 pm EDT
  - Re: Dear Internet: Reading comprehension. PLEASE! · Menshevik · Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 02:22:53 pm EDT
    - Re: Dear Internet: Reading comprehension. PLEASE! · Pengi · Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 02:28:30 pm EDT
      - Re: Dear Internet: Reading comprehension. PLEASE! · Menshevik · Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 02:34:02 pm EDT
        
        Re: Dear Internet: Reading comprehension. PLEASE! · Pengi · Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 02:45:55 pm EDT
- Re: Sounds like he was making a distinction · CA · Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 12:50:19 pm EDT
  - Re: Sounds like he was making a distinction · Pengi · Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 01:56:11 pm EDT
- This guy used to be a lawyer??? · Blargh · Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 12:22:06 pm EDT
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- Re: Marc Guggenheim uses homophobia to defend "One More Day" · OZ · Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 12:10:50 pm EDT
- Uh... · Wraith · Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 11:15:27 am EDT
- Wow, with this kind of rampant homophobia â€¦ · Common-Sense, Tingling! · Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 10:22:35 am EDT
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    - Re: Wow, with this kind of rampant homophobia â€¦ · Smithville Thunderbolt · Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 11:23:41 am EDT
    - Re: Wow, with this kind of rampant homophobia â€¦ · Ned Leeds Jr. · Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 10:52:29 am EDT
      - Re: Wow, with this kind of rampant homophobia â€¦ · scottsnewposting · Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 01:51:57 pm EDT
        
        Re: Wow, with this kind of rampant homophobia â€¦ · Ned Leeds Jr. · Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 02:01:47 pm EDT
      - Re: Wow, with this kind of rampant homophobia â€¦ · Mr Honey Bunny · Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 11:05:57 am EDT
        
        Re: Wow, with this kind of rampant homophobia â€¦ · Ned Leeds Jr. · Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 11:58:12 am EDT
        
        Re: Wow, with this kind of rampant homophobia â€¦ · Mr Honey Bunny · Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 12:06:33 pm EDT
        
        Re: Wow, with this kind of rampant homophobia â€¦ · Ned Leeds Jr. · Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 12:20:36 pm EDT
        
        Re: Wow, with this kind of rampant homophobia â€¦ · Brand New Hobgoblin · Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 11:59:59 am EDT
- Re: Marc Guggenheim uses homophobia to defend "One More Day" · Comp · Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 08:11:17 am EDT
  - Re: Marc Guggenheim uses homophobia to defend "One More Day" · Andrew C · Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 09:28:53 am EDT
    - It's called sarcasm *nnt* · The MOnocle · Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 09:44:25 am EDT
    - Re: Marc Guggenheim uses homophobia to defend "One More Day" · Ned Leeds Jr. · Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 09:33:51 am EDT
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        Re: Marc Guggenheim uses homophobia to defend "One More Day" · Ned Leeds Jr. · Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 12:02:24 pm EDT
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        Re: Marc Guggenheim uses homophobia to defend "One More Day" · Menshevik · Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 12:30:14 pm EDT
        
        Re: Marc Guggenheim uses homophobia to defend "One More Day" · Cbasfrench · Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 12:43:25 pm EDT
        
        Re: Marc Guggenheim uses homophobia to defend "One More Day" · Menshevik · Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 01:11:46 pm EDT
        
        Re: Marc Guggenheim uses homophobia to defend "One More Day" · Cbasfrench · Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 01:53:36 pm EDT
        
        Re: Marc Guggenheim uses homophobia to defend "One More Day" · Menshevik · Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 02:28:59 pm EDT
        
        Re: Marc Guggenheim uses homophobia to defend "One More Day" · Mr Honey Bunny · Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 12:03:26 pm EDT
        
        Re: Marc Guggenheim uses homophobia to defend "One More Day" · Cbasfrench · Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 12:17:09 pm EDT
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        Re: Marc Guggenheim uses homophobia to defend "One More Day" · Ned Leeds Jr. · Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 10:50:56 am EDT
        
        Re: Marc Guggenheim uses homophobia to defend "One More Day" · Smithville Thunderbolt · Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 11:20:37 am EDT
        
        Re: Marc Guggenheim uses homophobia to defend "One More Day" · Ned Leeds Jr. · Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 12:00:21 pm EDT
        Re: Marc Guggenheim uses homophobia to defend "One More Day" · Brand New Hobgoblin · Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 11:55:50 am EDT
- Re: Marc Guggenheim uses homophobia to defend "One More Day" · Brand New Hobgoblin · Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 05:58:38 am EDT
- On a more general level · Menshevik · Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 04:49:59 am EDT
  - Other respects in which I can't follow Guggenheim's "logic" · Menshevik · Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 02:11:12 pm EDT
  - Re: On a more general level · OZ · Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 12:30:03 pm EDT
- Now with added flow-chart to explain it all! · CrazySugarFreakBoy! · Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 03:19:22 am EDT
- Re: Marc Guggenheim uses homophobia to defend "One More Day" · Smithville Thunderbolt · Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 02:54:12 am EDT
- Re: Marc Guggenheim uses homophobia to defend "One More Day" · scottsnewpostingname · Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 02:52:26 am EDT
- Re: Marc Guggenheim uses homophobia to defend "One More Day" · scottsnewpostingname · Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 02:51:35 am EDT
- Sorry... · clayton · Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 01:59:20 am EDT
  - So, to get back at overly critical Spider-Man readers, Guggenheim is entitled to slur gays? · CrazySugarFreakBoy! · Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 03:59:50 am EDT
    - Re: So, to get back at overly critical Spider-Man readers, Guggenheim is entitled to slur gays? · Comp · Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 08:08:53 am EDT
    - Re: So, to get back at overly critical Spider-Man readers, Guggenheim is entitled to slur gays? · stillanerd · Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 04:11:12 am EDT
  - So then... · stillanerd · Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 02:42:56 am EDT
    - Re: So then... · OZ · Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 12:20:58 pm EDT
      - Re: So then... · Blargh · Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 12:23:15 pm EDT
        
        Re: So then... · OZ · Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 12:44:34 pm EDT
  - Re: Sorry... · Smithville Thunderbolt · Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 02:42:31 am EDT
- Re: Marc Guggenheim uses homophobia to defend "One More Day" · Andrew · Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 01:29:17 am EDT
- Re: Marc Guggenheim uses homophobia to defend "One More Day" · Grumpy · Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 12:39:55 am EDT
- Re: Marc Guggenheim uses homophobia to defend "One More Day" · stillanerd · Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 12:06:09 am EDT
  - On another unrelated note... · stillanerd · Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 12:36:29 am EDT
- haha that's so funny · mjyoung · Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 12:00:21 am EDT