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Subj: Re: On a more general level
Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 12:30:03 pm EDT (Viewed 70 times)
Reply Subj: On a more general level
Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 04:49:59 am EDT (Viewed 142 times)

> > Marc Guggenheim's response to fans who are still upset over "One More Day:"
> >
> > "Part of the problem with the controversy behind One More Day is the understanding of what was retconned overstates the extent of what was done. Everything that happened in the last twenty plus years of comic book history happened! The only difference is that Peter Parker and Mary Jane Watson weren't married. They still dated. They still lived together. They still love each other. They just weren't married. Judging from the letters and death threats we received, I think some people were confused. It all still happened. Here's my attitude, if anyone is upset about the marriage going away, then they must all be pro gay marriage. Because if you're pro gay marriage, you understand the distinction between a marriage and a civil union -- that a civil union is not equal to a marriage. We downgraded Mary Jane and Peter to a civil union. If that bothers you, then you're pro gay marriage."
> >
> I suspect it is part of Marvel's continuing strategy of "if we can't convince all fans of approving of our new direction, then at least we'll set them against each other" (divide and conquer). In this case by bringing in a completley unrelateded issue that at least in an American context is very divisive.
> And it also fits in with the way IMO Quesada et al. keep talking out of bouth sides of their mouth re. the retcon of the marriage. On one hand they tell fans of the marriage that everything still happened etc. (see Guggenheim's version above), but on the other hand it is painfully obvious that Quesada chose the route of a deal with the devil etc. (cue for his acolytes to point out that Mephisto is not "the" devil) instead of a divorce is because that way whatever happened 1987-2007 would be so cheapened in his (and, he hopes, the readers') eyes, that the break-up between Peter and MJ is no big deal, that just because they lack the relavant legal paperwork their marriage or common-law marriage would not be worth preserving or restoring, even though e.g. we've seen during JMS's run that Peter felt incomplete without Mary Jane. And now Marvel expects at least a large part of fans to cheer for Peter getting involved with some other woman and more or less ignore that Peter and MJ were a couple for over 20 years and still could (should) be reunited.
> To clarify: For me personally it would have made little difference whether there had been a wedding or not if their relationship had been portrayed in exactly the same way 1987-2007. In real life, both among people I know and from people I learn about in the media, I've seen unmarried relationships that are more deep and enduring than some marriages (to use extreme examples from showbiz, compare Britney Spears' 58-hour marriage with Susan Sarandon and Tim Robbins living together since 1988). But Quesada has made it abundantly clear that OMD is a manoeuvre to weasel out of a divorce and it is a bit much to believe that they went to all this trouble to end up with something that emotionally would be the equivalent of a divorce.

Interesting thoughts!

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