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Menshevik

Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008
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In Reply To
Cbasfrench

Subj: Re: Marc Guggenheim uses homophobia to defend "One More Day"
Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 02:28:59 pm EDT (Viewed 80 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Marc Guggenheim uses homophobia to defend "One More Day"
Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 01:53:36 pm EDT (Viewed 67 times)


> > Well, I'd say you're making a huge assumption about a lot of people when you say it sets you apart that you don't get personally offended. Just because you don't name those who you think feel personally offended...
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> I'm making an assumption based on the responses to this thread so far. I could be wrong and, If I am, I'll be the first one to admit it.

That isn't saying much because only you can admit that you're wrong. No one else can do it for you (they could only only admit that they are wrong, I can only admit when I'm wrong (but of course I'm never wrong). \:\-D

> I'll reiterate however that I was not offended by his statement, no matter how stupid it was.

All very well, but not necessarily relevant to anyone but yourself.
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> > To say that because the statement does not make sense, therefore there is nothing wrong with it - simply makes no sense. Since when do irrational hatreds and prejudices have to make sense to be considered wrong.
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> That's not what I said...is it? To me, I don't see anything wrong with it because, in part, it makes so little sense to me that I guess it affects how I see it. I'm not saying that it has to make sense to be considered wrong. I'm speaking on a personal level here, not for everybody.

Even on that personal level I can't follow that argument.
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> > Well, you certainly accused people just now and in the post before that of making false assumptions (in the previous one you mostly phrased it in your disapproval of people's reactions to Guggenheim's statement and exhorting them not to make assumptions)...
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> They could be wrong as much as they could be right. I guess none of us should be making assumptions about anything, whether for it or against it. This will be my last post about it.
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> > > > > Guggenheim said a comment that offended people and he probably shouldn't have said it. End of story. You can twist it in any way you want but until he defends himself, if he feels the need to do so, I think none of us should be making assumptions about him, or accused him of being homophobic. Nor should any of us assume that because we don't see anything wrong with his statement that we too are homophobic. Just saying anyways.
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> > > > Well, what reason could Guggenheim have had to make the statement he did? I really only see two possibilities, either he is a homophobe himself or he is trying to exploit the homophobia of which he suspects a lot of Spider-Man fans by associating support of Spider-Man's marriage and dislike of the new direction with this controversial but unrelated issue. Neither scenario would be flattering. (I don't think that he is accusing them of being hypocrites for not supporting gay marriage, a third, but distant option).
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> > > Granted, it was a stupid statement to make. Even more so, the purpose of it is rather muddy. Nobody really knows what the hell he's talking about. If he can offer an explanation and come out of it unscathed by offended fans then more power to him, but I guess we'll have to wait and see.
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> > This really just goes to show what I said. The argument is that because he made made a bad statement (introducing irrelevant topics, non-sequitur, falsely equating living together with civil unions etc.) he sould be given a free pass.
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> Cbasfrench
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