Dave Galanter
December 1st 1969 - December 12th 2020
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Spider-Hulk

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Pengi

Subj: Re: Where did the symbiote come from?
Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 04:53:56 pm EDT (Viewed 96 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Where did the symbiote come from?
Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 04:41:04 pm EDT (Viewed 108 times)


> > I don't think that was the right call either to just say symbiote = evil but, having said that I can see how they came to that conclusion given how the symbiotes amplify aggression.
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> But where was that established? The symbiote didn't make Peter any more aggressive. Eddie Brock and Cletus Cassidy were already bastards. In his recent podcast David Michellinie pretty much said as much, that the symbiote bonded with other people wouldn't necessarily be evil like Venom.
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> Did the aggression angle come from the 1994 TV series?

Yes it did. The Black suit made Spider-Man more aggressive to the point where he contemplated killing Rhino and shocker. But he didn't go through with either naturally.

They also pursued the aggression storyline in SM3.

Peter didn't really come over more aggressive but Brock and Kassidy did.

I believe that the idea of aggression being amplified comes from Eddie Brock, Brock upon getting the suit was obviously changed radically... can't deny that... but I would say upon getting the symbiote it made him more of a bad person than he already was. My theory is that the symbiote sort of amplifies what is already there, that appears to be the case anyway.

I think the thing that really solidifies the symbiotes as being bad dudes, was Ben during his stint as Spider-Carnage. If you recall he had to really fight against the symbiote to stop himself really hurting people. Now arguably you could say that it was all Kassidy's influence, which carried over to Ben in the symbiote... but then when you consider how much worse Kassidy got when he bonded with the symbiote....

Certainly there is evidence to suggest that symbiotes while not evil, do have an effect on their host, in increasing what is already there.

Certainly again, citing Toxin as an example, the Cop, Frank I think his name was... had to increasingly reign in Toxin, because Toxin's own aggressive urges were becoming prominent.

Having said that, I believe that the symbiote learns from its host. So while not inherently evil on their, own, good and evil are things they can learn, and thus amplify in the host.





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