Dave Galanter
December 1st 1969 - December 12th 2020
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Pengi

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Spider-Hulk

Subj: Re: Where did the symbiote come from?
Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 05:12:20 pm EDT (Viewed 86 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Where did the symbiote come from?
Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 at 04:53:56 pm EDT (Viewed 96 times)


> I believe that the idea of aggression being amplified comes from Eddie Brock, Brock upon getting the suit was obviously changed radically... can't deny that... but I would say upon getting the symbiote it made him more of a bad person than he already was. My theory is that the symbiote sort of amplifies what is already there, that appears to be the case anyway.

We didn't even get to see Eddie before he was Venom, but from his back story he clearly had a screw loose. Again, in the podcast David Michelinie said that Brock was a psychopath.

> I think the thing that really solidifies the symbiotes as being bad dudes, was Ben during his stint as Spider-Carnage. If you recall he had to really fight against the symbiote to stop himself really hurting people. Now arguably you could say that it was all Kassidy's influence, which carried over to Ben in the symbiote... but then when you consider how much worse Kassidy got when he bonded with the symbiote....

Cletus was already a monster. He just got really ill when the symbiote left him for Ben.

> Certainly there is evidence to suggest that symbiotes while not evil, do have an effect on their host, in increasing what is already there.
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> Certainly again, citing Toxin as an example, the Cop, Frank I think his name was... had to increasingly reign in Toxin, because Toxin's own aggressive urges were becoming prominent.

Right, but this is all years after the fact. What was the first comic book to actually portray the symbiotes as evil/aggressive? Where did it come from? It certainly wasn't in the original black costume, Venom or Carnage stories. Even the Life Foundation symbiotes in the Venom: Lethal Protector mini-series didn't make their hosts evil as far as I can recall (though I'm sure they went down that road later).


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