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Subj: Re: Spider-Man Revisited 35: Fabian Nicieza
Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 at 11:38:51 am EDT (Viewed 87 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Spider-Man Revisited 35: Fabian Nicieza
Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 at 08:49:24 pm EDT (Viewed 4 times)
Quote:Read both, but don't remember either... Hmm...
The C&DP issue wasnâ€™t particularly memorable anyway.
It did have the first Ken Ellis appearance Iâ€™ve seen since the 90s though. That ought to please his fans. Both of them.
Quote:What happened to the guy who was giving second (and third and sometimes fourth) chances to people like Black Cat, the Prowler, Rocket Racer, Puma, and Sandman?
Quote:Well, he WAS burned by Sandman. (Not like he knows about the Wizard's involvement.)
That always bugged me. I can sort of understand Spidey feeling heâ€™d been tricked but surely the Thing must have noticed that the Sandmanâ€™s personality changed completely overnight.
Quote:Plus the other Thunderbolts had just tried to take over the world or something over in Avengers/Thunderbolts, right?
Kinda. Zemo made a grand speech at the end of Thunderbolts #75 about saving the world by taking it over but â€“ when we see them again in that mini â€“ theyâ€™re mostly concerned with toppling/blackmailing third-world dictators and super villains. Then Cobalt Man â€¦ well thatâ€™s something I donâ€™t want to spoil.
Abe sided with the Avengers during that fight anyway.
Quote:Prowler and Rocket Racer were one time threats (maybe two-three for Rocket Racer), as opposed to hardened criminals.
I think the Prowler is particularly significant to Spideyâ€™s belief in second chances. The last time he intentionally let a thief escape the guy killed his uncle. Here Peter sees a lot of himself in Brown, decides to take a chance on the guy, and is rewarded with a lifelong ally (occasional Stacy-related hiccups aside). If not for the Prowler I donâ€™t think Peterâ€™d be taking chances on any of these people (well, probably the Black Cat but thatâ€™s more because there are some Spider-Man writers that wish they were writing Batman).
Rocket Racer is a weird one to me simply because the writers canâ€™t seem to agree on with side heâ€™s on but Spidey seems to have decided heâ€™s a decent guy regardless (see the â€œGreat Gameâ€ style story from Zeb Wellsâ€™ Peter Parker fill-in). I did like what Fred Van Lente did with him in MODOKâ€™s 11 though. Heâ€™s like a textbook case of an â€œArt of Warâ€ spy? Whoâ€™s going to suspect a loser like the RR?
Quote:As for the Cat... I suspect "little Peter" had some say in that one.
Yeah, and he lets the Black Fox go because he reminds him of Uncle Ben (which doesnâ€™t really say much for Ben Parker). The point is that Peter tends to be a bit of a softy so any â€œIâ€™m watching youâ€ tough talk to Abe rings false to me.
Quote:Puma seems to fall under the Punisher loophole.
â€œThe Punisher loopholeâ€ bugs the heck out of me. At least Fireheart has SOME redeeming qualities (though probably not enough to make Peter overlook that he kills people for money). Castle is just a serial killer.
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