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Subj: Re: How Come The Deaths Of Jean DeWolff, Ben Reilly And Ned Leeds Aren't Mentioned?
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 at 12:48:10 pm EST (Viewed 193 times)
Reply Subj: Re: How Come The Deaths Of Jean DeWolff, Ben Reilly And Ned Leeds Aren't Mentioned?
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 at 08:20:35 am EST (Viewed 14 times)

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Well let's just get this out of the way: They are mentioned. Not as often as Uncle Ben or Gwen. But they are. Especially with the recent Scarlet Spider/Kaine solo title, the death of Ben Reilly was mentioned often.

But I think in the cases of DeWolff and especially Ned, you have to think of the relationship Peter has with these people. DeWolff is someone he knew only as Spidey. Yeah the famous "Death Of" storyline hints there was something "more" on Jean's end, but and sure, some writers liked her and used her. But she was just one of the go-to friendly cops that Spidey would go to for information. There was no type of personal connection or bond between the two characters. She also wasn't present for her death.

In the case of Ned, they weren't just not friends, but rivals. At times, they hated each other. He also wasn't present for his death and he was partially responsible for a lot of misery in Betty's life. So yeah, I don't think Pete not mourning Ned's death is out of character. In fact, it makes a lot of sense.

Yes, Peter probably thinks about Jean/Ned less because he has no reason to feel guilty about their deaths. Jean was killed in her bed by a madman with a gun, and Peter had never encountered that murderer before Jean's death. Ned was set up by the Hobgoblin to be killed by the Foreigner while on a business trip. I guess there's a stretch-argument to be made that if Peter had captured Hobgoblin or Foreigner on one of their earlier encounters, he could have prevented Ned's death - but the guy shouldn't lose sleep over a logical stretch like that.

Then contrast the deaths of Ben Parker and Gwen Stacey. Ben was killed by the guy that Peter selfishly refused to stop when Peter encountered him moments earlier. Gwen was arguably killed by Peter himself when his webbing snapped her neck (the Goblin was ultimately responsible, but Peter doesn't think that way).

So in terms of long-term effects on Peter's psyche, the deaths of Ben/Gwen are far more impacting because of Peter's direct involvement, as well as the fact that he was much, much closer to them (a parental figure and the love of his life).

"It is not our abilities that show what we truly are. It is our choices." – Albus Dumbledore