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Menshevik

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Omar Karindu

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Subj: Re: How many "normal" supporting characters are left?
Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 at 09:05:47 am EST (Viewed 150 times)
Reply Subj: Re: How many "normal" supporting characters are left?
Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 at 08:32:27 am EST (Viewed 149 times)


Thank you very much for the additions!


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    > Liz Allan - revealed to be the Molten Man's step-sister in the 1970s, later married Harry Osborn (Green Goblin II), bore his son, and between the Clone Saga and BND was Norman Osborn's (Green Goblin I) daughter-in-law.



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    Liz graduated to being an active co-conspirator with Norman Osborn in the final arc of Superior Spider-Man, making her essentially a super-villain's henchperson.



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    > Flash Thompson - became the new Venom after OMD.



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    Even before that, he had a stint being framed as the first Hobgoblin, dated Felicia Hardy without ever finding out she was the Black Cat, and was left in a vegetative state for a time after Norman Osborn targeted him to get at Peter


Well, you have to define a cut-off point, so I deliberately did not include "normal" persons being targeted by criminals and supervillains or dating them for a time, because that is what happens to supporting characters in superhero comics all the time. (And of course you could argue that merely because of their association with Peter Parker/Spider-Man the members of the supporting cast are no longer "normal". So e.g. Gwen got onto my list for sleeping with Norman Osborn and bearing his kids (establishing a familial relationship), not for being killed by him.

Re. Flash I would add that it was eventually revealed that he had known who Felicia was right from the start, which only made sense as Felicia previously had not bothered to keep her ID a secret and as Spidey's biggest fan Flash probably also took an interest in Spider-Man's only publicly known girlfriend.


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    > Sha Shan - I vaguely recall that her grandfather was some kind of priest/mage who was somehow connected to Dr. Strange. She also used to be the villainess Sister Sun, partnered with a certain Brother Power.



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    In fairness to Sha Shan, she actually started out "superish" and was "normalized." Her first appearances revealed that her father was a mystic, and her second appearance had her as Sister Sun. After that, though, she became a basically normal person and that stuff was never again mentioned.


True.


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    > Aunt May (although she used to be Doc Ock's fiancee)



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    Also, she's twice been held hostage by the Green Goblin/Norman Osborn and had her death faked by him once, a status which lasted for months even in-universe


See above; it's basically "normal" for a supporting character who has been around as long as Aunt May. She also e. g. had her death faked by Mysterio in the run-up to ASM #200.


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    It's worth noting that Liz Allan's relationship to the Molten Man, John Jameson's turn as Man-Wolf, Aunt May nearly marrying Doc Ock, Joe Robertson's past with Tombstone, Glory Grant's relationship with one of the Lobos, and Professor Warren becoming the Jackal were all Gerry Conway plots. Stan may have tied some of the villains up with Spidey's supporting cast, but Conway was arguably the guy who made it almost mandatory that no one could stay "normal" for too long.


Well, Aunt May had been Otto Octavius's on-and-off girlfriend since the Ditko run.


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    Some further additions:



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    Stacy family: Arthur Stacy turned out to be tangled up with Ranger and the alien Senator Ward; his son Phil joined anti-mutant group the Sons of Humanity and wound up fleeing assassins like the Shocker when he turned on them



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    Jacob Conover - went from a minor Daily Bugle reporter most notable for writing up the news article in "The KId Who Collected Spider-Man" to being one of the many incarnations of the Rose


Yes, I had forgotten about that. It was another WTF moment for me, because Jacob Conover had been an inoffensive kind of guy who was, as you point out, best associated with one of the ultimate tearjerker/feel-good stories in Spidey history.


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    Joy Mercado -- stayed mostly normal, recently turned up after years of absence as a blogger in an issue of the Warren Ellis Moon Knight



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    Kate Cushing -- had a sister who joined a cult, but otherwise stayed quite normal despite working for both Jonah and Thomas "puma" Fireheart



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    Nathan Lubensky -- turned out to have a gambling problem that got him targeted by the mob over and over; died of a heart attack in a confrontation with the Vulture


Who had sorta become a pal of his earlier in his civilian guise.



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    Aunt May's boarders -- had pretty "grounded" plotlines, actually; even the one action-oriented storyline was basically a "ripped from he headlines" take on the Bernard Goetz incident



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    Steve Hopkins - Peter's closest friend as a grad student; vanished after Peter quite school



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    Phillip Chang -- introduced as a character tangled up with the White Dragon, but was soon "normalized" as Peter's grad school buddy; vanished with the other TAs



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    Roger Hochberg -- Peter's lab partner; vanished like the other TAs



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    Chip something-or-other -- Peter's colleague during his second stint in grad school; killed by Carnage during the latter's initial rampage


Yes, thanks for listing these. Speaking of dead supporting characters, there was also the NYPD SWAT leader Kris Keating, who was killed by the Foreigner and impersonated by him for a time.



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