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Jeremiah Ecks

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Subj: Re: How many "normal" supporting characters are left?
Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 at 04:36:10 pm EST (Viewed 109 times)
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Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 at 05:18:41 pm EST (Viewed 195 times)

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When Bennett Brant's return from the dead came up in the thread about why Jean DeWolff, Ben Reilly and Ned Leeds aren't mentioned more often, I was struck by how often "normal civilian" supporting characters were transformed into something else or became connected to superheroes and villains, so that these days there are precious few recurring characters who 1) did not gain superpowers themselves or 2) are related to a supervillain or -hero. I'll attempt a list:

Liz Allan - revealed to be the Molten Man's step-sister in the 1970s, later married Harry Osborn (Green Goblin II), bore his son, and between the Clone Saga and BND was Norman Osborn's (Green Goblin I) daughter-in-law.

Flash Thompson - became the new Venom after OMD.

The other students at Midtown High (mostly used in crowd scenes): Sally (Avril) in Untold Tales of Spider-Man became a costumed heroine and was later killed. At least two other students who attended Midtown High at the same time as Peter gained superpowers: Jessica Jones (Alias) and Charlie Weiderman (in "Skin Deep" during JMS's run).

J. Jonah Jameson - Father of John Jameson, who became the Man-Wolf. JJJ is also responsible for Mac Gargan becoming the Scorpion and funded several Spider-Slayers (at least one of which was built by his later wife, Marla Madison).

John Jameson - became the Man-Wolf.

Betty Brant - her brother Bennett was brought back from the dead and retooled as the new Crime Master in the Venom series starring Flash Thompson.

Frederick Foswell - became the Big Man, later was killed.

Ned Leeds - was for a time believed to have been the original Hobgoblin. In any case, he was killed off.

Mary Jane Watson - was married to Spider-Man between ASM Annual #21 and OMD.

Gwen Stacy - was killed off and decades later revealed to have been the mother of Norman Osborn's twin children, who are also superpowered.

Professor Warren - became the Jackal, died, was replaced by his clone Carrion, who also died.

Sha Shan - I vaguely recall that her grandfather was some kind of priest/mage who was somehow connected to Dr. Strange. She also used to be the villainess Sister Sun, partnered with a certain Brother Power.

Jean DeWolff - daughter of a criminal father, sister of the Wraith.

Marcie Kane - revealed to be an alien, left Earth.

Ben Urich - uncle to Phil, who later became a new Green Goblin and Hobgoblin.

Hector Ayala (one of Peter's fellow teaching assistants) - became/was revealed to be the original White Tiger.


Which basically leaves as notable "normals" (among the living):

Aunt May (although she used to be Doc Ock's fiancee)

Aunt Anna Watson (and the other Watson relatives)

Joe Robertson and his family

Glory Grant

Debra Whitman

Ashley Kafka?

Det. Lamont

and some minor characters, most of whom haven't been seen in ages (e. g. Roger Hochberg, Mrs. Muggins, Randi, Bambi and Candy...)

Any additions and/or corrections?



I've got a few I think (maybe others have mentioned, sorry):

* Caryn & Barker: Peter's neighbours during the Paul Jenkins run (I think some of the other posters clocked this). Never attached to any super heroics although Barker seemed to be hinted as a plot tease.

* April Maye: Reporter at Daily Globe.

* Barney Bushkin: I know he's been around in the Marvel U for some time so maybe he has had interaction with others.

* Lorraine Mandel: A model friend of Mary Jane's who was a supporting cast member at least for one story arc. She became I believe a heroin user and quietly written out when PAD had made his story point (PAD or Conway at any rate).

* Dr. Swann and Anne Marie Baker: Swann was a professor at ESU who was Peter's mentor. Anne Marie was his lab assistant and colleague to Peter. Neither really did much of note, except Swann had brief involvement with the Cosmic Spidey stuff.

* Kristy Watson: Someone else may have covered her. I suppose she's on risky ground because she almost dated Colossus!

* The other Watsons: Philip, Ma Watson, Sara \(\?\) , the kids etc.

* Angela Yin: Hmm. Maybe not, her sister was one of the Dragonflys.

* Cole Cooper: A suspect for being F.A.C.A.D.E. He appeared in the books as a photographer after the event and was clearly being placed not only as a suspect but, ironically, a Lance Bannon style foil.

* Billy Walters: Major new supporting cast member who joined post-Clone Saga and was written out in favour of 'classic' stories when the relaunch happened. He had nothing to do with villains IIRC and simply moved away.

* Cissy Ironwood: Dated Peter a few times. She was a generic love interest penned by Claremont who didn't want to use Marcy Kane as it was about that time.

* Coach: Eh, I can't even remember his surname but the coach who kept interfering with Peter during College.

* Willie Lumpkin: Okay, okay, he was the postman for the Fantastic Four but he never did anything with a hero or a villain, right? And he dated May and was a supporting cast member for at least two years.

* Seymour O'Rielly: Would have counted until Angelo Fortunato broke his neck...

* Do the Daily Grind cast count - Desiree, Buzz, etc.?

* There was that neighbour that Ben Reilly had, who people mistook IRL for Joystick for years. Who was she again?

Any more for any more?

-Jeremiah Ecks,
who would like you to think about the future, Eckart.



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