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Subj: Re: Sure! Why not?
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 at 07:53:49 pm EST (Viewed 97 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Sure! Why not?
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 at 04:56:16 pm EST (Viewed 107 times)

    This is overwhelmingly false. I've had the chance to speak with writers like Elliot S! Maggin to confirm it. DC had their reasons for changing Superman, but it sure as heck wasn't because he was "boring". That and Superman was depowered before. The Bronze Age Superman wasn't as powerful as the Silver Age Superman by far, as he was lessened in power in the "Sandman Saga". It's the hackneyed strawman argument with Superman, that somehow more power makes him boring, when it's poor storytelling that's responsible for that result.

Which is too often the case because most writers don't know how to write a hero that has no limits. No challenge. Some writers are even on record stating Superman is too boring BECAUSE he's too powerful. So, maybe, just maybe, there's more to my side of the argument than there is yours since I have actual evidence to support it.

    Always the extremes. . .and the notion is incorrect. We've seen the post-Crisis Superman push a universe single-handed, and there was no uproar. Why some Superman readers are so needlessly rigid, I just don't know.

Pushed a universe single handed? That never happened and trust me, I'd know. And the reason some of us are "rigid" is because there are numerous problems with writing Superman who has no limits. Okay, so, he lifted a planet in one issue then struggles with an aircraft carrier the next. Blame different writers if you wish, but sometimes, the same writer is responsible for the inconsistency. And I've noticed a trend when it comes to Superman. The more powerful he is, the more inconsistent his power level. And then we reach the point of just how utterly absurd it is to be able to move a planet. Why does Superman need to be so strong? What's the point? Did you know he'd wipe out of every life on Earth if he did that? Just the kinetic energy from a thrown punch alone would be enough to wipe out an entire city, even if Superman held back. So forget about him fighting super villains in downtown Metropolis. You can hire all the great writers in the world but you can never erase how absurd a planet pushing Superman actually is. But instead of acknowledging it, the comic writers ignore it and that makes it worse, not better. Ignoring a problem only makes it bigger.

Superman doesn't need to be time traveler, he can use a device for that. He doesn't need to be a planet pusher either, it's too absurd.

It's interesting that a hero/villain performs one amazing feat, or use a power they haven't used for 20+ years, and that automatically propels them to a high status despite scans and evidence to the contrary. I don't know what is worse, selective feat picking that has only been done once or twice 20, or more, years ago or ignoring evidence from scans or the lack thereof. We need to stop putting our favorite heroes/villains on pedestals and start putting them where they really belong. But it's evident that people never will because they would rather accuse others of cherry picking feats, when they don't, and being 'morally superior' when they aren't. I guess being honest and as fair as possible only opens one up to being the target of childish accusations and fault finding by those who insist on acting petty and childish. What happened to a good debate between two civil, mature, adults?
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