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Subj: Re: At this point Jane-Thor is a spiteful villain, this issue reinforces it...
Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 at 09:55:00 am EST (Viewed 194 times)
Reply Subj: Re: At this point Jane-Thor is a spiteful villain, this issue reinforces it...
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2017 at 01:30:21 pm EST (Viewed 314 times)
Quote:So you just described virtually every country that is currently non-white majority; even though you specifically picked out 'white male patriarchy' in a previous post.
Quote:Is this another one of our 'whataboutisms'? You and Oliva are bemoaning the diminishment of white male superiority. That's the focus of this discussion because of you and Oliva.
The focus has always been Aaron's and Alonso-era Marvel's FORCING of Leftist Politics into comics.
You simply want to ignore and deflect from the PRIMARY PROBLEM to concentrate on secondary issues like criticism of Marvel (and the Left wing ideology you support that they have been ramming down people's throats).
Quote:historically at the expense of women.
Quote:Women who historically, never had to fight wars, protect the country, build 'anything'
Quote:Women never built anything?
This is where you list off examples to counter my statement.
Quote:And women have been forbidden from fighting in most wars.
Women were ASKED if they wanted the VOTE back around 1870. Women voted 70% AGAINST obtaining the vote because to be eligible to vote you had to be eligible for MILITARY SERVICE. For men that was still true up until 1970 (or so) of course when women got the vote in the early 1900's they were excused from that stipulation.
Quote:There are 'mainstream' politicians who believe that women have no place in the military.
If they can meet the standards I don't see why not.
I am against lowering standards just for women though, that risks lives.
Quote:...but apparently things were 'at their expense' according to you. Any inequality of opportunity ended back in the 70's, women and minorities can reach any positions they want with enough hard work and talent.
Quote:How ridiculously naive that you think racism ended in the 1970s,
I never said racism ended in 70s. I said we've had inequality of opportunity from the 70's.
Quote:when the poster adjacent to you -- spouting much of the same nonsense as you -- doesn't think whites should mix with other races.
Is that your attempt at guilt by association Norvell?
If you and Gabby Rivera are both Left Wing, are you automatically a racist because she is too? Of course not.
Quote:I'm still waiting for your outrage over what he said.
Keep waiting, I believe in Free Speech and both Oliva and Gabby Rivera are entitled to say what they want.
Quote:Or that this view is shared by many Trump supporters
A tiny minority I'd wager.
Quote:and British fringe groups.
Consisting of a few hundred people in a country of 70 million.
Unlike Isis which has a few thousand soldiers living in Britain.
Unlike Antifa which has many thousands (of violent rioters*) worldwide.
*Contrasted with Britain First's peaceful idiots.
Quote:You focus your outrage towards people fighting resisting these groups. Which for you, I guess, is the path of least resistance. Your outrage flows from their direction.
Those groups don't need 'resisting'; by letting them speak they condemn themselves.
Violent groups need resisting, Free Speech doesn't need resisting.
Quote:You certainly know all about faux-outrage (given how many anti-Trump posts you make on the community boards)
Quote:No, the outrage is real. It's a crying shame what is happening to my country of origin.
I'm sure it was much better when it was run by multiple rapist (and alleged worse) Bill Clinton. Were you outraged back then?
Quote:but politics and anything else aside; is the Jane in issue #702 the type of hero you want?
Quote:I reject the premise that Jane was picking on Thor's disability.
Which part of her mocking threat wasn't clear enough for you?
Quote:I don't care what Aaron's political viewpoint is; I simply care about him forcing it into comics that he didn't create.
Quote:He has the job, you don't. You'll never have the job. Thank god.
Maybe I might have surprised you.
You certainly wouldn't have gotten a bunch of preachy identity politics that turned off half the readership...but maybe that's what you want in a Thor comic, who knows.
Quote:Is a matriarchy automatically good then?
Glad to hear it, Sweden is in a bit of a mess to be fair.
Quote:I have a point with all three characters, you just don't want to acknowledge it. Right now, Thor is the WEAKEST most SPINELESS cuck we've ever seen in comics and that's all thanks to Aaron and his agenda.
Quote:Hyperventilate in another direction. Seems like you're projecting a lot of yourself onto Thor.
I don't see how.
Of course I don't consider myself a heroic role model but...
I stand up for the things I believe in - Aaron's Thor GIVES UP
I take responsibility for my own words and actions - Aaron's Thor DISOWNED his entire life as a sham
I'm in shape - Aaron's Thor has lost all his GAINZ
I'm confident - Aaron's Thor is riddled with SELF DOUBT
I'm proud of my name - Aaron's Thor HATES HIMSELF
I'm not guilty of my race, its individuals who choose to do good or evil (not skin colour) - Aaron's Thor believes the gods are UNWORTHY
I'm a positive person - Aaron's Thor is a WHINY EMO CRYBABY
I've been doing great with the ladies of late* - Aaron's Thor is a total CUCK
You could actually say Classic Thor IS my role model. So if I am projecting myself onto Thor then its a yes...Classic Thor, not this Cuckolded Imitation 'Odinson'.
Quote:Where am I advocating for any such thing?
Quote:So you think a patriarchal system is bad? Then what are you whining about?
I think people in power should be judged on their individual merits and not on their identity politics.
Quote:Apparently criticizing Aaron's forced political preaching means I am saying men must be in charge of everything, lol, despite voting to the contrary.
Quote:This is like thinking voting for Obama absolves you of all racism.
Its one of the Lefts current tactics of trying to guilt trip white people by telling them they are all racist (whether they know it or not). I already told you I don't buy into the idea of white guilt...or male guilt...or hetero guilt...or cis guilt.
Quote:We've been over this. The right-wing has been playing white identity politics since forever. Certainly longer than I've been alive.
Quote:...and it hasn't been relevant to anything since BEFORE you were born.
Quote:Because racism ended in 1970. Just ask Oliva.
Inequality of opportunity ended in the 70s.
Today we live in a society where we can have an openly racist and misandrist Hispanic woman hired by Marvel to write for them.
Quote:There is no Patriarchy in the modern western world outside the imaginations of Leftists.
Quote:So you agree that a patriarchy is inherently bad. Therefore your political outburst was baseless from the start. I guess the only thing left is whether Jane pushed Thor out of his wheel chair.
Aaron's political outburst was what I was criticizing.
Quote:No one is saying all comic characters should be men or white. But at the same time it should be okay to be a white male hero.
Quote:No one is saying there can't be white male superheroes.
Alonso-era Marvel are most certainly saying that.
Cap = Nazi
Thor = Woman
Hulk = Woman
Iron Man = Woman
Hawkeye = Woman
Wolverine = Woman
Quote:We can't discuss the content on non-political issues because his run is dripping with politics. I mean even though we are on different sides of the fence you must acknowledge he is purposefully forcing this stuff in there.
Quote:We live in interesting times, and there has been pushback from many industries. The center is not the halfway point between Trump and Obama. That thinking is lunacy.
There is a culture war going on and leaving comics to Leftist Propaganda Merchants will be the death of the industry (as it has almost been the death of Marvel comics). Thankfully the ship has hopefully been righted at Marvel with the sacking of Alonso and many of his idealogues at the company.
I guess we stand on different sides, hopefully not so far apart though that we can't have a civil discussion and share a (virtual) beer...my old sparring partner.
You address Omnipotence...tread carefully.
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