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Norvell

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Vidar

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Subj: Re: How does everyone feel about the return of Donald Blake?
Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 at 09:03:32 am EDT (Viewed 128 times)
Reply Subj: Re: How does everyone feel about the return of Donald Blake?
Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 at 12:20:18 pm EDT (Viewed 140 times)



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    The reason I said I wasn’t clear on Blake’s purpose wasn’t because I’m not familiar with the various interpretations, but because they’re so contradictory. Given that, it’s not as simple as to cite Oeming’s run as somehow having wrapped it all up. Especially so, given Oeming’s highly compacted storytelling. It was a great run, and his use of those who sit above was fantastic, but in no way could you argue that the takeaway from this run was a satisfactory explanation of Blake. And didn’t Fraction also feature Blake more recently? Conjured up by Amoroa and illustrated by Walt no less?


Yes, Fraction used Blake, but he didn't delve into Blake's purpose that I can recall. I would say the Blake issue is more complicated post-Ragnarok, when JMS started treating him as a separate personality.


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    Lol. I like his ‘over the top’ threads and I can’t fault him for this.


Except that, as I suggested with the 'Animal' GIF, Cates seems to have only 'loud', 'louder' and loudest' types of storytelling. Without any editorial control. He's like a drummer hammering the drums without any control or rhythm.




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    I remember Mark Grunewald picking up Wagner and running with it for far too long on Thor, leading to 300. It was a crazy diversion really but enjoyable nonetheless.


Wasn't that Roy Thomas? I'm getting old. I know Gruenwald finished the arc with 300.


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    I know what you’re saying here and agree there are some similarities with Cate’s and Aaron’s approach - I’m not sure current DisMel would allow for anything else quite honestly, as ‘big ideas’ are needed to fuel the movies. And when they’re not, the same characters are cycled over and over. But the comparison ends there. Donny seems to have gone out of his way to bury the bad taste of Aaron in Thor’s book. Furthermore, his writing is markedly different to so many of the sub-standard pap at the moment. Frankly, he’s rocking it. Not for *everyone* but I’m digging it.


I agree with this review here, in that Cates and Aaron are two sides of the same coin.

https://youtu.be/Ffn--ibiA2Q?t=207

Cates uses Aaron 'tropes', but uses them to slap around other characters and wrap up storylines in the most flaccid use of Deus Ex Machina I've ever seen. I'm truly glad that a lot of people are digging it, I would just recommend that there be some pushback to what Cates is doing or he'll take the ball run to Jupiter with it. And you might not like the end result.

With Simonson, you knew you were getting a steady drum beat, that everything was controlled and measured. It felt like there were rules understood by the writer which governed the boundaries of his stories. With Cates, there is no such feeling.


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