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Evil G:DR

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Nitz the Bloody

Subj: Today's Sermon at the Church of Rulk is: Hammering Thor. In Space.
Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 at 06:44:08 am EST (Viewed 12 times)
Reply Subj: Your idolatry against Our Savior Deadpool baffles me
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 at 09:43:55 pm EST (Viewed 95 times)

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    This title is a regular fix of Lobe writing something crazy-insane-awesome, without any of the gore or shockingly distasteful things that got into his Ultimate books, and sometimes it's even good in the normal sense of the word. I genuinely liked the last issue, and Fall of the Hulks: Gamma as proper good comics, not just crazy ones.


I'll give you that. Rulk is silly, but it's silly fisticuffs between extremely muscular men, which is one of the most jugular appeals of superhero comics. It's not the takes-itself-way-too-seriously gorn of Ultimates 3 and Ultimatum, which quickly moved from So Bad It's Good to So Bad It's Horrible. So I can understand why it would be worth following.

My problem with Rulk is that his stories are the kind that could be done better with a character who had actual depth. Deadpool is just as crazy-insane-awesome as Rulk, except he's just as often portrayed as an irritating loon as he is as a unstoppable killing machine, and from time to time he gets moments of genuinely serious characterization. Joe Fixit had a similar " Jerk Who Beats Up/Demoralizes Heroes " appeal, but had an interesting amorality instead of a drawn out mysterious agenda. NextWave, at least while it lasted, was more honest about just being crazy-insane-awesome. And the Punisher in recent years ( at least outside the MAX stories ) has been intentionally unleaded ridiculousness, with issues like the Stilt Man's Funeral coming to mind.

I'm not opposed to Rulk being crazy-insane-awesome, I just know there are better sources. ( Especially if you cross the Pacific Ocean, at least from where I'm standing; the anime Teppen Toppa Gurren Lagann is of a CIA level that nothing anywhere ever can match ).

> My problem with Rulk is that his stories are the kind that could be done better with a character who had actual depth. Deadpool is just as crazy-insane-awesome as Rulk, except he's just as often portrayed as an irritating loon as he is as a unstoppable killing machine, and from time to time he gets moments of genuinely serious characterization.

Deadpool's serious moments, and the tragi-comedy of the best work on the character, all seem to sadly be largely behind him now, in favour of "popcorn comics", and him becoming the court jester of the Marvel Universe, the only guy who can openly mock characters we're supposed to take 100% seriously, right to their faces, and completely get away with it because he's indestructible.

> Joe Fixit had a similar " Jerk Who Beats Up/Demoralizes Heroes " appeal, but had an interesting amorality instead of a drawn out mysterious agenda.

Outside of his fights with Ben Grimm and Hulk Hogan, (the former of which, he was the underdog in) I don't have clear memories of that version of Hulk fighting other heroes, at least not anywhere near as much as his green self seems to.

> NextWave, at least while it lasted, was more honest about just being crazy-insane-awesome.

Well, that's true, but NextWave is gone, and Rulk is very much here. Also, NextWave was very self-contained, we didn't get to see them take on other heroes.

> And the Punisher in recent years ( at least outside the MAX stories ) has been intentionally unleaded ridiculousness, with issues like the Stilt Man's Funeral coming to mind.

I'm going to be honest, as entertaining as some of the Punisher comics have been, I still on a fundamental level flat-out hate the "Punisher vs supervillains" set-up, and the sheer number of superhumans who've been written as ineffectual incompetants so they can be beaten, even physically overpowered, by Guy With Guns. (I'm still trying to figure out how he killed Firebrand, an armoured guy who used to fight Iron Man, by shooting him) It's telling that the first guy who wasn't written as an idiot AND was flat-out trying to kill him, got to slice him into dogfood.

Rulk differs from these guys, because while Deadpool or Punisher may mock them and make them look like idiots, Rulk can credibly take on A-list superheroes and beat them like red-headed step-children, and for 2 years, that's pretty much ALL HE DOES, coming out of nowhere like a force of nature to beat down on "heroes" who have it coming. Rulk has been like a force of karmic payback to superheroes who've been acting in unheroic ways, and that's why we want to see him smash Cyclops and Frost. And also Ronin.

Yes, I can probably find Manga that's flat-out insane-er and awesome-er, but I wouldn't have decades of connection to the characters, nor the sense of "they had it coming" that I do when someone gets Rulksmashed.


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