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Subj: Re: Questions About Old Storylines And Subplots. When Did They Screw Up Apocalypse? When Did The X-Men Discover That Jean Was Alive, When Did X-Factor Reveal Themselves To The World?
Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 at 12:36:57 pm EDT (Viewed 291 times)
Reply Subj: Questions About Old Storylines And Subplots. When Did They Screw Up Apocalypse? When Did The X-Men Discover That Jean Was Alive, When Did X-Factor Reveal Themselves To The World?
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 at 06:46:26 pm EDT (Viewed 196 times)

    And a few more.

    First- Longhot's origin. What exactly is his origin anyway? I heard/read that this is a whole convoluted mess. I read the Wiki entry on it, and I STILL don't get it. What's his connection to Spiral? Were they lovers? What's his connection to Shatterstar?

I read the issues and I was always confused as well. As for his connection to Shatterstar - in Peter David's recent X-Factor, it was revealed that due to a time paradox, Shatterstar and Longshot are each others fathers and each others sons. Does that clear it up for you? Didn't think so.

    #When did X-Factor (The original incarnation, which would be Cyclops, Warren the boring Angel, Iceman, Jean Grey, and Beast.) reveal themselves, or when was it revealed that they were in fact the original X-Men, and that they were not mutant hunters. The original premise had them operating under the pretense that they were mutant hunters, didn't it? I don't think that anyone knew the truth about them. Did the public ever find out? I'm trying to read/get as many of the Louise Simonson issues as I can (Not a popular run, I hear. I read a lot of it when I was growing up, and I enjoyed it.), and in one issue (I think that it was #17 or #18.), they were going to reveal themselves to the press, but Cameron Hodge stopped them by ordering a sneak attack. So did the public ever find out? And if so, when and how? And was Hodge ALWAYS intended to be an evil villain? He's pretty much pure evil, isn't he? That deal with that demon guy that he made during Inferno when he gave him the location of a bunch of mutant babies was really low, and pushed him into monster territory. Would he ever kill any innocent people? How was he in the X-Factor Forever series (Is that still going on?)?

When Hodge was first introduced, I read him as a guy who had a hopeless crush on the magnetic Warren Worthington, and felt spurned. I thought he was really interesting this way - but then they went overboard with him and made him a baby killer. By the way, the mutant babies subplot was FINALLY resolved in the latest New Mutants series. It's also really complicated, but you can google it if you're interested.

    #When did they mess up Apocalypse? During the Simonson X-Factor run, he was a social Darwinist, and he believed that only the strong and worthy should survive. In a way, he was like Magneto. But then, he got really screwed up later down the line, and what kind of origin did they give him? They've done a lot of weird things to the character, and he's really convoluted now. He USED to be cool, but he's just a little bit too convoluted now.

Never liked Apocalypse. Not in his first appearance, nor in any subsequent appearance. At first I thought he was a Plastic Man ripoff who should have been easily dispatched by X-Factor. Then they loaded him up with Celestial tech (and at that point, I'd never heard of Celestials). It seems every attempt to make him look more formidable just made him more lame. Ultimately I started avoiding his appearances, so I'm definitely not an expert.

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