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Subj: Re: Who Is/Was Hazard?
Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 at 01:45:22 am EDT (Viewed 92 times)
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> That ending was altered? Never read that before. What I read was that Cyclops was brought back earlier than he might have been. That Jemas thought it was wrong that, with a movie out, Cyclops was out of the books and ordered him brought back. Never read that the actual story was altered, though. What was the original ending?

I can't remember the exact month in '00 that Search for Cyclops started, or the month when Jemas started throwing his weight around, and Harras was replaced with Quesada as editor-in-chief, but I'm sure that the time between the two events is waaaaay too small for Search for Cyclops to have been "ordered by Jemas", as opposed to happening exactly when it was planned to (although Jemas was having a stopped-clock moment in terms of Cyclops being 'killed off' not long before the movie).

And on the subject of the movie, apparently it was moved forward from it's original release date, and that's why Marvel published an X-Men vs Brotherhood storyline in November 2000, and in the month the movie was out, they were publishing that thing with the Crimson Pirates and The Goth, which was nigh-impenetrable to any hypothetical newcomers (and not much more accessible to regulars). But the thing to remember is that no-one had any idea if it would be any good, or do very well, so you can kind of see how Marvel would be reluctant to impose drastic movie-inspired changes onto the comics, especially given previous years of reluctance to change the books very much, for fear of losing readers.

But anyway, getting back to the point, of Apocalypse's 'death', what I can remember is the news that the guy who wrote that miniseries saying how it was originally going to end with Apocalypse surviving and escaping somehow, but the end was changed to kill him in a way that reads like it was meant to be Real, Permanent And Forever. See also; the deaths of X-Man and Stryfe at around the same time, and Tieri not being allowed to use Sinister or Hazard in his Wolverine run because they were "too complicated". Or how Bishop's being from the future was largely avoided.

Cripes, that era really ballsed up the X-Men beyond all repair, didn't it?

Nice to see this brought you out of lurking, though.

And yes, the 90's pretty much was the nadir for the X-Books (And I actually grew up on, read and enjoyed those books. I still think the SL and FN runs are very good on the whole.). It really took the arrival of Grant Morrison to make the books accessible again.

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