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Subj: Re: True. Grant Morrison's Influence Was Strong.
Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 at 07:29:32 pm EDT (Viewed 658 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Again ? It has become a silly gimmick ... What's the point ?
Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 at 07:00:44 am EDT (Viewed 727 times)

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    What's the point of keeping her dead.

... because she has never been more interesting in a book than during the original Dark Phoenix story.

Normally, I always prefer old-school Silver Age characters to newer ones.

For example, Silver Age villains : I dislike when a newcomer easily wins against a veteran.

Still, Jean Grey & Scarlet Witch are two of my exceptions.

Stan Lee is a genius when it comes to write about male characters ... not so much about women.

It can be explained by the fact that Silver Age superhero comics were written to be read by 1960s male teenagers.

Ororo, Kitty Pryde, Meggan, Firestar, Mirage, Illyana, 1980s Rachel Summers, are a 1000 times more interesting than classic Jean Grey ever was and ever will be.

She only became interesting during the Dark Phoenix story because it was fascinating to see, for the very first time, a major good character becoming a cosmic threat to everyone and because there was a moral dilemma about her fate.

Then, she was brought back in X-Factor and her return created much more mess than it added value.

Also, the character was totally bland compared to other female characters of the same period. The only true event was her lackluster wedding with Cyclops.

Then, much later, after decades of stories during which nothing happened to Jean Grey, Grant Morrison had no choice but to imagine something, anything, to make her less boring ... and the Phoenix comes back, and she dies again.

So, what's the point ? Rachel Summers as the Phoenix has always been more interesting than her mother.

    Especially when they trot out Hope Summers and time displaced teen Jean.

    Let's just have the real Jean and all the ersatz Jean can leave.

Yes but they can leave without Jean coming back. \:\-\)

Writers have pretty much respected that, and kept Emma an X-Man and Jean dead. Well, at least the beast mutation has stuck around.

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