X-Universe - No, it really hasn't.

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Subj: No, it really hasn't.
Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2017 at 06:32:12 am CDT (Viewed 365 times)

Reply Subj: Re: The Franchise Has Gotten By Without Jean For More Than A Decade, So, Not Too Silly.
Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 at 06:27:21 pm CDT (Viewed 637 times)

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Resurrections like hers (And Jason Todd, Ben Reilly, etc.) are a step backwards for the franchise.

It's created gimmick after gimmick of fake Jeans for 12 years in efforts to rescue the brand, and often treated Emma as Jean with a bleach job.

City of Heroes is BACK!

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Return of the one true Jean Grey · The Voice of Reason · Tue Sep 19, 2017 at 03:56:55 pm CDT
- I think the answer might be to just age the O5 · little kon-el · Fri Sep 22, 2017 at 10:29:09 pm CDT
  - Re: I think the answer might be to just age the O5 · America's Captain · Sat Sep 23, 2017 at 05:52:42 pm CDT
  - No way! Kill them all where they stand. (no text) · The Black Guardian · Sat Sep 23, 2017 at 02:34:26 pm CDT
    - I agree! nnt · Reverend Meteor · Mon Sep 25, 2017 at 02:46:26 pm CDT
    - Re: No way! Kill them all where they stand. [Spoilers] · WordsmithOne · Mon Sep 25, 2017 at 02:46:09 pm CDT
      - Re: No way! Kill them all where they stand. [Spoilers] · Reverend Meteor · Mon Sep 25, 2017 at 02:48:08 pm CDT
  - Re: I think the answer might be to just age the O5 · The Voice of Reason · Sat Sep 23, 2017 at 12:27:30 pm CDT
    - Re: Here is how I would fix things... · zvelf · Fri Sep 29, 2017 at 01:11:45 pm CDT
    - Re: I think the answer might be to just age the O5 · The Black Guardian · Sat Sep 23, 2017 at 02:36:58 pm CDT
      - Re: I think the answer might be to just age the O5 · America's Captain · Sat Sep 23, 2017 at 05:19:26 pm CDT
- It just came to me - · America's Captain · Fri Sep 22, 2017 at 10:20:26 am CDT
  - Re: It just came to me - · The Black Guardian · Fri Sep 22, 2017 at 01:02:51 pm CDT
    - Re: It just came to me - · America's Captain · Fri Sep 22, 2017 at 02:15:28 pm CDT
      - Re: It just came to me - · The Black Guardian · Sat Sep 23, 2017 at 07:14:24 am CDT
        
        Re: It just came to me - · America's Captain · Sat Sep 23, 2017 at 06:09:03 pm CDT
        
        Re: It just came to me - · The Black Guardian · Sun Sep 24, 2017 at 07:11:03 am CDT
        
        Re: It just came to me - · Menshevik · Sun Sep 24, 2017 at 08:10:21 am CDT
      - Jean Grey is the age of the X-Men · little kon-el · Fri Sep 22, 2017 at 10:33:50 pm CDT
        
        Re: Jean Grey is the age of the X-Men · Menshevik · Sun Sep 24, 2017 at 05:12:26 am CDT
        Re: Jean Grey is the age of the X-Men · America's Captain · Sat Sep 23, 2017 at 06:15:37 pm CDT
        
        Re: Jean Grey is the age of the X-Men · little kon-el · Sat Sep 23, 2017 at 07:46:01 pm CDT
        
        Re: Jean Grey is the age of the X-Men · America's Captain · Sun Sep 24, 2017 at 06:46:40 am CDT
- Not happy · Menshevik · Thu Sep 21, 2017 at 04:49:12 am CDT
  - Re: Exactly. It Is A Matter Of Nostalgia. · Comicguy1 · Thu Sep 21, 2017 at 06:15:18 pm CDT
    - Re: Exactly. It Is A Matter Of Nostalgia. · Reverend Meteor · Fri Sep 22, 2017 at 08:23:50 am CDT
      - Re: Exactly. It Is A Matter Of Nostalgia. · Grey Gargoyle · Fri Sep 22, 2017 at 12:10:21 pm CDT
        
        Re: Exactly. It Is A Matter Of Nostalgia. · zvelf · Fri Sep 29, 2017 at 10:16:07 am CDT
        Re: Exactly. How Could The X-Books Have NOT Gotten Along Without Jean? · Comicguy1 · Fri Sep 22, 2017 at 05:56:32 pm CDT
        
        Re: Exactly. How Could The X-Books Have NOT Gotten Along Without Jean? · The Voice of Reason · Sat Sep 23, 2017 at 01:01:32 pm CDT
        
        Re: Exactly. It Is A Matter Of Nostalgia. · America's Captain · Fri Sep 22, 2017 at 02:02:19 pm CDT
        
        Re: Lee-Kirby and 1986 · zvelf · Fri Sep 29, 2017 at 12:00:14 pm CDT
        
        Re: Lee-Kirby and 1986 · Menshevik · Sat Sep 30, 2017 at 01:40:18 pm CDT
  - Poppycock. · Reverend Meteor · Thu Sep 21, 2017 at 10:26:51 am CDT
    - Re: Poppycock. · zvelf · Thu Sep 28, 2017 at 03:13:23 pm CDT
    - Re: Poppycock. · Menshevik · Fri Sep 22, 2017 at 03:50:02 am CDT
      - Re: Poppycock. · Reverend Meteor · Fri Sep 22, 2017 at 08:12:57 am CDT
        
        Re: Poppycock. · Menshevik · Fri Sep 22, 2017 at 04:34:08 pm CDT
        Re: Poppycock. · The Voice of Reason · Fri Sep 22, 2017 at 04:24:33 pm CDT
- Re: Return of the one true Jean Grey · Unstable Molecule · Wed Sep 20, 2017 at 05:26:06 pm CDT
  - I don't even want that, because it makes Hope important. (no text) · The Black Guardian · Thu Sep 21, 2017 at 06:46:44 am CDT
    - Worth it for her to go away. Writers clearly don't know what to do with her. (no text) · Unstable Molecule · Sun Sep 24, 2017 at 12:08:18 pm CDT
  - Re: Return of the one true Jean Grey · America's Captain · Wed Sep 20, 2017 at 07:05:25 pm CDT
    - Re: Return of the one true Jean Grey · zvelf · Thu Sep 28, 2017 at 02:58:20 pm CDT
    - Not really, because it was revealed they ARE NOT the real 616 O5. (no text) · The Black Guardian · Thu Sep 21, 2017 at 06:47:39 am CDT
      - Re: Not really, because it was revealed they ARE NOT the real 616 O5. · Reverend Meteor · Thu Sep 21, 2017 at 10:36:49 am CDT
        
        Re: Not really, because it was revealed they ARE NOT the real 616 O5. · The Black Guardian · Thu Sep 21, 2017 at 12:04:24 pm CDT
        
        Re: Not really, because it was revealed they ARE NOT the real 616 O5. · America's Captain · Thu Sep 21, 2017 at 12:53:00 pm CDT
        
        Re: Not really, because it was revealed they ARE NOT the real 616 O5. · The Voice of Reason · Fri Sep 22, 2017 at 04:37:34 pm CDT
    - Re: Return of the one true Jean Grey · Reverend Meteor · Wed Sep 20, 2017 at 11:18:25 pm CDT
- Again ? It has become a silly gimmick ... What's the point ? (no text) · Grey Gargoyle · Wed Sep 20, 2017 at 02:52:21 am CDT
  - Everything is a gimmick. And I mean that literally. And that's really reason enough. (no text) · The Black Guardian · Wed Sep 20, 2017 at 07:24:06 am CDT
    - Yes but this one is so silly. I know that Phoenix is about resurrection but, still .... :-( (no text) · Grey Gargoyle · Thu Sep 21, 2017 at 06:03:26 am CDT
      - Nah. It's a correction of a huge silliness. · The Black Guardian · Thu Sep 21, 2017 at 06:43:45 am CDT
        
        Re: Nah. It's a correction of a huge silliness. · Grey Gargoyle · Fri Sep 22, 2017 at 07:00:24 am CDT
        Re: The Franchise Has Gotten By Without Jean For More Than A Decade, So, Not Too Silly. · Comicguy1 · Thu Sep 21, 2017 at 06:27:21 pm CDT
        
        No, it really hasn't. · The Black Guardian · Fri Sep 22, 2017 at 06:32:12 am CDT
        
        Re: No, it really hasn't. · Grey Gargoyle · Mon Sep 25, 2017 at 03:39:08 am CDT
        Re: Yes, It Really Has. · Comicguy1 · Fri Sep 22, 2017 at 06:09:33 pm CDT
        
        Re: Nope · zvelf · Thu Sep 28, 2017 at 02:51:56 pm CDT
        
        What was Jean's role anyway? · Menshevik · Fri Sep 29, 2017 at 10:54:16 am CDT
        
        Re: What was Jean's role anyway? · zvelf · Fri Sep 29, 2017 at 12:47:59 pm CDT
        
        Re: What was Jean's role anyway? · Menshevik · Sat Sep 30, 2017 at 11:53:55 am CDT
        
        Re: No, it really hasn't. · Reverend Meteor · Fri Sep 22, 2017 at 08:14:48 am CDT
  - Re: Again ? It has become a silly gimmick ... What's the point ? · Reverend Meteor · Wed Sep 20, 2017 at 07:15:36 am CDT
    - Re: Again ? It has become a silly gimmick ... What's the point ? · Grey Gargoyle · Thu Sep 21, 2017 at 06:00:44 am CDT
      - Re: True. Grant Morrison's Influence Was Strong. · Comicguy1 · Thu Sep 21, 2017 at 06:29:32 pm CDT
        
        Re: True. Grant Morrison's Influence Was Strong. · Grey Gargoyle · Fri Sep 22, 2017 at 06:55:36 am CDT
      - Re: Again ? It has become a silly gimmick ... What's the point ? · Reverend Meteor · Thu Sep 21, 2017 at 10:11:28 am CDT
        
        Unfortunately, it won't happen because the iconic version of the character is the Dark Phoenix · Grey Gargoyle · Fri Sep 22, 2017 at 06:52:25 am CDT
        
        Re: Unfortunately, it won't happen because the iconic version of the character is the Dark Phoenix · The Voice of Reason · Fri Sep 22, 2017 at 04:47:04 pm CDT
        
        Re: Unfortunately, it won't happen because the iconic version of the character is the Dark Phoenix · Grey Gargoyle · Mon Sep 25, 2017 at 03:28:01 am CDT
        
        Re: Unfortunately, it won't happen because the iconic version of the character is the Dark Phoenix · Menshevik · Mon Sep 25, 2017 at 06:43:18 am CDT
        
        Re: Unfortunately, it won't happen because the iconic version of the character is the Dark Phoenix · Grey Gargoyle · Mon Sep 25, 2017 at 08:05:23 am CDT
        
        Re: Unfortunately, it won't happen because the iconic version of the character is the Dark Phoenix · Menshevik · Mon Sep 25, 2017 at 08:20:05 am CDT
        
        Re: Again ? It has become a silly gimmick ... What's the point ? · Menshevik · Fri Sep 22, 2017 at 03:04:02 am CDT
        
        Re: Again ? It has become a silly gimmick ... What's the point ? · The Voice of Reason · Fri Sep 22, 2017 at 04:48:45 pm CDT
        
        Re: Again ? It has become a silly gimmick ... What's the point ? · Menshevik · Fri Sep 22, 2017 at 05:23:26 pm CDT
        
        Re: True! · Comicguy1 · Fri Sep 22, 2017 at 06:11:27 pm CDT
        Re: Again ? It has become a silly gimmick ... What's the point ? · The Voice of Reason · Fri Sep 22, 2017 at 05:53:36 pm CDT
        
        Re: Again ? It has become a silly gimmick ... What's the point ? · Menshevik · Sat Sep 23, 2017 at 03:06:12 am CDT
        
        Re: Again ? It has become a silly gimmick ... What's the point ? · Grey Gargoyle · Mon Sep 25, 2017 at 03:34:24 am CDT
        
        Re: Again ? It has become a silly gimmick ... What's the point ? · Menshevik · Mon Sep 25, 2017 at 06:24:10 am CDT
        
        Re: Again ? It has become a silly gimmick ... What's the point ? · Grey Gargoyle · Mon Sep 25, 2017 at 07:53:55 am CDT
        
        Re: Again ? It has become a silly gimmick ... What's the point ? · Menshevik · Mon Sep 25, 2017 at 08:43:36 am CDT
        
        Re: Again ? It has become a silly gimmick ... What's the point ? · Grey Gargoyle · Tue Sep 26, 2017 at 03:03:30 am CDT
- Re: Why? · Comicguy1 · Tue Sep 19, 2017 at 08:34:26 pm CDT
  - Re: Why? · America's Captain · Wed Sep 20, 2017 at 08:50:30 am CDT
  - Re: Why? · Reverend Meteor · Wed Sep 20, 2017 at 08:13:19 am CDT
  - Re: Why? · The Black Guardian · Wed Sep 20, 2017 at 07:22:33 am CDT
- Re: Return of the one true Jean Grey · Reverend Meteor · Tue Sep 19, 2017 at 05:27:11 pm CDT
- Re: Return of the one true Jean Grey · The Black Guardian · Tue Sep 19, 2017 at 05:00:49 pm CDT
  - Eh, it's pretty clear cut, no need to worry. · UName · Tue Sep 19, 2017 at 11:39:49 pm CDT
  - Re: Return of the one true Jean Grey · The Voice of Reason · Tue Sep 19, 2017 at 06:31:05 pm CDT