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Subj: Re: Unfortunately, it won't happen because the iconic version of the character is the Dark Phoenix
Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 at 09:05:23 am EDT (Viewed 344 times)

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I'm not sure if they were meant to be opposites of one another - it was more a thing that during the Silver Age there was a tendency for female heroes to have non-physical powers (vide also Sue Storm and Crystal). And of course Stan Lee took Wanda out of the Brotherhood (and the title X-Men) and turned her into a mainstay of the Avengers within less than two years.

It was due to their X-Men vs Brotherhood battles.
They were the only female member of their respective teams.

http://scans-daily.dreamwidth.org/1206679.html?thread=37085335

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What do you mean by that?

In the MCU, Wanda doesn't have "bad luck" powers but psionic powers (telepathy & telekinesis ...) coming from exposure to the cosmic Mind Stone.

Basically, she has almost the same array of powers than Jean Grey & Moondragon.

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Return of the one true Jean Grey · The Voice of Reason · Tue Sep 19, 2017 at 04:56:55 pm EDT
- I think the answer might be to just age the O5 · little kon-el · Fri Sep 22, 2017 at 11:29:09 pm EDT
  - Re: I think the answer might be to just age the O5 · America's Captain · Sat Sep 23, 2017 at 06:52:42 pm EDT
  - No way! Kill them all where they stand. (no text) · The Black Guardian · Sat Sep 23, 2017 at 03:34:26 pm EDT
    - I agree! nnt · Reverend Meteor · Mon Sep 25, 2017 at 03:46:26 pm EDT
    - Re: No way! Kill them all where they stand. [Spoilers] · WordsmithOne · Mon Sep 25, 2017 at 03:46:09 pm EDT
      - Re: No way! Kill them all where they stand. [Spoilers] · Reverend Meteor · Mon Sep 25, 2017 at 03:48:08 pm EDT
  - Re: I think the answer might be to just age the O5 · The Voice of Reason · Sat Sep 23, 2017 at 01:27:30 pm EDT
    - Re: Here is how I would fix things... · zvelf · Fri Sep 29, 2017 at 02:11:45 pm EDT
    - Re: I think the answer might be to just age the O5 · The Black Guardian · Sat Sep 23, 2017 at 03:36:58 pm EDT
      - Re: I think the answer might be to just age the O5 · America's Captain · Sat Sep 23, 2017 at 06:19:26 pm EDT
- It just came to me - · America's Captain · Fri Sep 22, 2017 at 11:20:26 am EDT
  - Re: It just came to me - · The Black Guardian · Fri Sep 22, 2017 at 02:02:51 pm EDT
    - Re: It just came to me - · America's Captain · Fri Sep 22, 2017 at 03:15:28 pm EDT
      - Re: It just came to me - · The Black Guardian · Sat Sep 23, 2017 at 08:14:24 am EDT
        
        Re: It just came to me - · America's Captain · Sat Sep 23, 2017 at 07:09:03 pm EDT
        
        Re: It just came to me - · The Black Guardian · Sun Sep 24, 2017 at 08:11:03 am EDT
        
        Re: It just came to me - · Menshevik · Sun Sep 24, 2017 at 09:10:21 am EDT
      - Jean Grey is the age of the X-Men · little kon-el · Fri Sep 22, 2017 at 11:33:50 pm EDT
        
        Re: Jean Grey is the age of the X-Men · Menshevik · Sun Sep 24, 2017 at 06:12:26 am EDT
        Re: Jean Grey is the age of the X-Men · America's Captain · Sat Sep 23, 2017 at 07:15:37 pm EDT
        
        Re: Jean Grey is the age of the X-Men · little kon-el · Sat Sep 23, 2017 at 08:46:01 pm EDT
        
        Re: Jean Grey is the age of the X-Men · America's Captain · Sun Sep 24, 2017 at 07:46:40 am EDT
- Not happy · Menshevik · Thu Sep 21, 2017 at 05:49:12 am EDT
  - Re: Exactly. It Is A Matter Of Nostalgia. · Comicguy1 · Thu Sep 21, 2017 at 07:15:18 pm EDT
    - Re: Exactly. It Is A Matter Of Nostalgia. · Reverend Meteor · Fri Sep 22, 2017 at 09:23:50 am EDT
      - Re: Exactly. It Is A Matter Of Nostalgia. · Grey Gargoyle · Fri Sep 22, 2017 at 01:10:21 pm EDT
        
        Re: Exactly. It Is A Matter Of Nostalgia. · zvelf · Fri Sep 29, 2017 at 11:16:07 am EDT
        Re: Exactly. How Could The X-Books Have NOT Gotten Along Without Jean? · Comicguy1 · Fri Sep 22, 2017 at 06:56:32 pm EDT
        
        Re: Exactly. How Could The X-Books Have NOT Gotten Along Without Jean? · The Voice of Reason · Sat Sep 23, 2017 at 02:01:32 pm EDT
        
        Re: Exactly. It Is A Matter Of Nostalgia. · America's Captain · Fri Sep 22, 2017 at 03:02:19 pm EDT
        
        Re: Lee-Kirby and 1986 · zvelf · Fri Sep 29, 2017 at 01:00:14 pm EDT
        
        Re: Lee-Kirby and 1986 · Menshevik · Sat Sep 30, 2017 at 02:40:18 pm EDT
  - Poppycock. · Reverend Meteor · Thu Sep 21, 2017 at 11:26:51 am EDT
    - Re: Poppycock. · zvelf · Thu Sep 28, 2017 at 04:13:23 pm EDT
    - Re: Poppycock. · Menshevik · Fri Sep 22, 2017 at 04:50:02 am EDT
      - Re: Poppycock. · Reverend Meteor · Fri Sep 22, 2017 at 09:12:57 am EDT
        
        Re: Poppycock. · Menshevik · Fri Sep 22, 2017 at 05:34:08 pm EDT
        Re: Poppycock. · The Voice of Reason · Fri Sep 22, 2017 at 05:24:33 pm EDT
- Re: Return of the one true Jean Grey · Unstable Molecule · Wed Sep 20, 2017 at 06:26:06 pm EDT
  - I don't even want that, because it makes Hope important. (no text) · The Black Guardian · Thu Sep 21, 2017 at 07:46:44 am EDT
    - Worth it for her to go away. Writers clearly don't know what to do with her. (no text) · Unstable Molecule · Sun Sep 24, 2017 at 01:08:18 pm EDT
  - Re: Return of the one true Jean Grey · America's Captain · Wed Sep 20, 2017 at 08:05:25 pm EDT
    - Re: Return of the one true Jean Grey · zvelf · Thu Sep 28, 2017 at 03:58:20 pm EDT
    - Not really, because it was revealed they ARE NOT the real 616 O5. (no text) · The Black Guardian · Thu Sep 21, 2017 at 07:47:39 am EDT
      - Re: Not really, because it was revealed they ARE NOT the real 616 O5. · Reverend Meteor · Thu Sep 21, 2017 at 11:36:49 am EDT
        
        Re: Not really, because it was revealed they ARE NOT the real 616 O5. · The Black Guardian · Thu Sep 21, 2017 at 01:04:24 pm EDT
        
        Re: Not really, because it was revealed they ARE NOT the real 616 O5. · America's Captain · Thu Sep 21, 2017 at 01:53:00 pm EDT
        
        Re: Not really, because it was revealed they ARE NOT the real 616 O5. · The Voice of Reason · Fri Sep 22, 2017 at 05:37:34 pm EDT
    - Re: Return of the one true Jean Grey · Reverend Meteor · Thu Sep 21, 2017 at 12:18:25 am EDT
- Again ? It has become a silly gimmick ... What's the point ? (no text) · Grey Gargoyle · Wed Sep 20, 2017 at 03:52:21 am EDT
  - Everything is a gimmick. And I mean that literally. And that's really reason enough. (no text) · The Black Guardian · Wed Sep 20, 2017 at 08:24:06 am EDT
    - Yes but this one is so silly. I know that Phoenix is about resurrection but, still .... :-( (no text) · Grey Gargoyle · Thu Sep 21, 2017 at 07:03:26 am EDT
      - Nah. It's a correction of a huge silliness. · The Black Guardian · Thu Sep 21, 2017 at 07:43:45 am EDT
        
        Re: Nah. It's a correction of a huge silliness. · Grey Gargoyle · Fri Sep 22, 2017 at 08:00:24 am EDT
        Re: The Franchise Has Gotten By Without Jean For More Than A Decade, So, Not Too Silly. · Comicguy1 · Thu Sep 21, 2017 at 07:27:21 pm EDT
        
        No, it really hasn't. · The Black Guardian · Fri Sep 22, 2017 at 07:32:12 am EDT
        
        Re: No, it really hasn't. · Grey Gargoyle · Mon Sep 25, 2017 at 04:39:08 am EDT
        Re: Yes, It Really Has. · Comicguy1 · Fri Sep 22, 2017 at 07:09:33 pm EDT
        
        Re: Nope · zvelf · Thu Sep 28, 2017 at 03:51:56 pm EDT
        
        What was Jean's role anyway? · Menshevik · Fri Sep 29, 2017 at 11:54:16 am EDT
        
        Re: What was Jean's role anyway? · zvelf · Fri Sep 29, 2017 at 01:47:59 pm EDT
        
        Re: What was Jean's role anyway? · Menshevik · Sat Sep 30, 2017 at 12:53:55 pm EDT
        
        Re: No, it really hasn't. · Reverend Meteor · Fri Sep 22, 2017 at 09:14:48 am EDT
  - Re: Again ? It has become a silly gimmick ... What's the point ? · Reverend Meteor · Wed Sep 20, 2017 at 08:15:36 am EDT
    - Re: Again ? It has become a silly gimmick ... What's the point ? · Grey Gargoyle · Thu Sep 21, 2017 at 07:00:44 am EDT
      - Re: True. Grant Morrison's Influence Was Strong. · Comicguy1 · Thu Sep 21, 2017 at 07:29:32 pm EDT
        
        Re: True. Grant Morrison's Influence Was Strong. · Grey Gargoyle · Fri Sep 22, 2017 at 07:55:36 am EDT
      - Re: Again ? It has become a silly gimmick ... What's the point ? · Reverend Meteor · Thu Sep 21, 2017 at 11:11:28 am EDT
        
        Unfortunately, it won't happen because the iconic version of the character is the Dark Phoenix · Grey Gargoyle · Fri Sep 22, 2017 at 07:52:25 am EDT
        
        Re: Unfortunately, it won't happen because the iconic version of the character is the Dark Phoenix · The Voice of Reason · Fri Sep 22, 2017 at 05:47:04 pm EDT
        
        Re: Unfortunately, it won't happen because the iconic version of the character is the Dark Phoenix · Grey Gargoyle · Mon Sep 25, 2017 at 04:28:01 am EDT
        
        Re: Unfortunately, it won't happen because the iconic version of the character is the Dark Phoenix · Menshevik · Mon Sep 25, 2017 at 07:43:18 am EDT
        
        Re: Unfortunately, it won't happen because the iconic version of the character is the Dark Phoenix · Grey Gargoyle · Mon Sep 25, 2017 at 09:05:23 am EDT
        
        Re: Unfortunately, it won't happen because the iconic version of the character is the Dark Phoenix · Menshevik · Mon Sep 25, 2017 at 09:20:05 am EDT
        
        Re: Again ? It has become a silly gimmick ... What's the point ? · Menshevik · Fri Sep 22, 2017 at 04:04:02 am EDT
        
        Re: Again ? It has become a silly gimmick ... What's the point ? · The Voice of Reason · Fri Sep 22, 2017 at 05:48:45 pm EDT
        
        Re: Again ? It has become a silly gimmick ... What's the point ? · Menshevik · Fri Sep 22, 2017 at 06:23:26 pm EDT
        
        Re: True! · Comicguy1 · Fri Sep 22, 2017 at 07:11:27 pm EDT
        Re: Again ? It has become a silly gimmick ... What's the point ? · The Voice of Reason · Fri Sep 22, 2017 at 06:53:36 pm EDT
        
        Re: Again ? It has become a silly gimmick ... What's the point ? · Menshevik · Sat Sep 23, 2017 at 04:06:12 am EDT
        
        Re: Again ? It has become a silly gimmick ... What's the point ? · Grey Gargoyle · Mon Sep 25, 2017 at 04:34:24 am EDT
        
        Re: Again ? It has become a silly gimmick ... What's the point ? · Menshevik · Mon Sep 25, 2017 at 07:24:10 am EDT
        
        Re: Again ? It has become a silly gimmick ... What's the point ? · Grey Gargoyle · Mon Sep 25, 2017 at 08:53:55 am EDT
        
        Re: Again ? It has become a silly gimmick ... What's the point ? · Menshevik · Mon Sep 25, 2017 at 09:43:36 am EDT
        
        Re: Again ? It has become a silly gimmick ... What's the point ? · Grey Gargoyle · Tue Sep 26, 2017 at 04:03:30 am EDT
- Re: Why? · Comicguy1 · Tue Sep 19, 2017 at 09:34:26 pm EDT
  - Re: Why? · America's Captain · Wed Sep 20, 2017 at 09:50:30 am EDT
  - Re: Why? · Reverend Meteor · Wed Sep 20, 2017 at 09:13:19 am EDT
  - Re: Why? · The Black Guardian · Wed Sep 20, 2017 at 08:22:33 am EDT
- Re: Return of the one true Jean Grey · Reverend Meteor · Tue Sep 19, 2017 at 06:27:11 pm EDT
- Re: Return of the one true Jean Grey · The Black Guardian · Tue Sep 19, 2017 at 06:00:49 pm EDT
  - Eh, it's pretty clear cut, no need to worry. · UName · Wed Sep 20, 2017 at 12:39:49 am EDT
  - Re: Return of the one true Jean Grey · The Voice of Reason · Tue Sep 19, 2017 at 07:31:05 pm EDT