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Subj: A-listers and others
Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 at 08:07:44 am CDT (Viewed 390 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Pitch a book for Jean Grey......
Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2017 at 11:34:11 am CDT (Viewed 395 times)

    I'm good with this too, because - and I sincerely and strongly believe this - if a mutant can't be successful in a non-mutant context, then that mutant is at best B-list, probably more like C-list.

    Does Wolverine - say what you will, he's unquestionably A-list - work in a non-mutant context? Yes, of course he does. He can be placed in any conceivable context, just as Spider-Man (or any A-lister) can. In fact, versatility of this sort may well be a criterion for being A-list in the first place.

    If Jean can only work in a mutant context, then she is, at best, B-list - and why bother resurrecting a B-list character? (By this logic, of course, Bucky should have stayed dead - and lo and behold, I do in fact contend that Bucky should have stayed dead.)

At first glance I found this theory intriguing, but on reflection I'm not so sure. By that logic Angel and Iceman - who worked as Champions and Defenders just as well as they did as X-Men - would have been A-listers since the 1970s while Professor X and Cyclops would merely be B-listers, at best, because they really have yet to show that they can successfully work in a non-X context. Yet Charles and Scott are characters who have to a large extent defined the X-books (they ARE a crucial part of the context) while Warren and Bobby are more like optional extras (or X-tras) in the wider scheme of things.(1) So while the definition looks at an interesting aspect of gauging a character's dramatic/narrative usefulness, it is incomplete by itself and has to be supplemented by others.

(1) Same fans also would say that Batman does not work (or at least only at a fraction of his normal form) outside of Gotham City and the Batman family books, snorting derisively when they see or utter the three words "Batman in space", but Batman is undoubtedly an A-list hero.

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