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Subj: Re: Has House Of M And Decimation Been Undone, Or Is It Still In Play Or Being Referenced?
Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 at 07:19:37 am EST (Viewed 354 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Has House Of M And Decimation Been Undone, Or Is It Still In Play Or Being Referenced?
Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 at 03:56:18 am EST (Viewed 251 times)

    The problem I have is that I don't really see a good reason for wanting to repower everyone (and no, I don't consider a dislike of Brian Bendis and/or for "House of M" good reasons). The Decimation IMO was a sad necessity after Grant Morrison left the X-books with way too many, as in millions too many, mutants.

I don't understand why this was a problem. We only saw whatever mutants the writer presented to us. There might be ten thousand mutants in the next town but if the story doesn't involve that town, it won't involve those mutants, which means we'll never encounter them.

    Even Morrison himself had only been able to pretend that this scenario worked by essentially acting as if the X-books happened on a different planet from that on which the other Marvel titles were set.

I'm so glad I lost patience with his writing. I lost patience quickly with every fan favorite writer: Morrison, Bendis, Fraction, Slott, Millar, Loeb, Hickman, JMS. I don't understand the mindset of the fans who like these guys. Or maybe I just don't respect it. "Ooh! Shiny! Never saw that before! Must have - must have - must have!" They're like ferrets.

    So I can understand if Marvel wants to retain the effects of the Decimation(1), which is to keep the mutant population to a manageable size

Six million mutants would only be one in every thousand humans. Most of us don't know a thousand people face to face, so most of us would never meet a mutant face to face. How is this unmanageble?

    (especially as in the past two decades the relative importance of the X-books within the totality of Marvel's output has become significantly smaller and as in the past decade interactions between mutant and muggle characters have become a regular thing again).

I don't understand your logic in the above. Less importance to global story lines means we have to have fewer mutants? Why? Couldn't most of them be sitting at home playing video games and using their amazing ability to stretch their left arm as a way to avoid having to leave their chair to get chips and a beer?


    In the meantime, the difficulties "No More Mutants" originally created have AFAIK been overcome: Starting with Hope new mutants can manifest again and to repower your favourite depowered mutant is no more difficult than bringing back dead characters (it is a sad comment on the state of Marvel that I can write that down unironically).

It just seems tedious to have to resurrect or otherwise "cure" one at a time.

    (1) Whatever its faults, the Decimation was less stupid and contrived than Morrison's Genoshan genocide which in the end only affected 16 million essentially faceless and nameless "characters" while leaving the already established characters who happened to be on the island (Emma, Lorna, Magnus) unscathed for no good reason. At least "No More Mutants" also affected characters the readers already knew and cared about.

Well, 16 million mutants on one island was over the top, especially with Magneto as its ruler. It shifted the balance of power too much over to Magneto. It couldn't be allowed to stand. It had to fall. Also, the whole concept had missed the transition of mutant metaphor from racial discrimination to sexual preference discrimination. South Africe as a model was only relevant to the racial discrimination metaphor. Gebnosha had outlived its symbolic usefulness.


      Depowering El Aguila was heinous. Heinous! I love that guy.

    Let's just say that there are plenty of characters whose depowering or being killed off bothered me more.

And that's really my point. Everybody has a favorite third tier mutant who occasionally appears and brings a smile to the face. Marvel gained nothing by making that smile impossible.

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