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Subj: Re: Romulus/Logan? Tryp/Madrox?
Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 at 03:20:09 pm CST (Viewed 308 times)
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      Waitaminnit - Externals are a subspecies of mutants? Not an offshoot of homo sapiens?

    Yes this has always been so. Way back in X-Force #12 Gideon's narration bubble thingee says before he was an External he was a mutant. Every one of the Externals to my knowledge was a mutant and then they died, came back and discovered they were Externals/Immortals (fuzzy on En Sabah Nur...him getting altered by Celestial tech may mean he doesn't fit the pattern)

    All Externals are mutants. Or were when the Externals subplot was originally playing out in the 90's.

    I think you can make the argument that the Neo were an offshoot of humanity like the Deviants and the Eternals but the Externals are just a handful of mutants who are also immortal.

    They're immortal but other than that...nothing special. They're not a separate race from mutants. There are like 10 of them. They're more like Highlanders where they just sort of discover as they get older that they are Externals as well as mutants but not like say the Eternals who have their own culture. Externals are just an additional mutation...no External is an External because their ancestors were.


Hmm... Wonder if anyone has come across an (Official Marvel) online Human Race Species flowchart infographic, like those family tree ones?

So, how would subspecies or offshoot distinctions work for Romulus/Logan and their feral line. Does Tryp/Madrox still have their own genetic changeling line of distinction going on?

Neyaphem? Gene Nation? Are they 'offshoots' or just a grouping description?

SIDEBAR:What? Logan and James Hudson are closely related??
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That whole killcrop thing was just bogus, imo. But even so, they would not be a group unto themselves. They're like the frayed strands that line the edges of the mutant tapestry. The whole idea of the killcrops was that they were meant to die, but somehow didn't.

Ferals, neyaphem, and cheyarafim (and whatever other groups) would just be tribes of mutants. You could probably include the Clan Akkaba as one of these tribes.

Yes, Logan's mom was a Hudson by birth.

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