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Subj: Re: Well see, here's the thing.
Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 at 09:13:59 am PDT (Viewed 118 times)
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Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 at 05:56:58 am PDT (Viewed 131 times)

    You are right on all counts. Bringing him back and giving him the old costume and codename would be redundant (not redundant to James, though, who now has a different costume and code name).

    What I want is to see him brought back as a normal person. Nothing to do with his tribe or his costume. A normal person trying to figure out how to live and how he relates to the new world.

    Of course, all the X characters have costumes, and I wouldn't mind him putting on his old costume to fight their enemies, etc. Minus the feather!!!!!!! James has a different costume and code name anyway. But what I'm more interested in is seeing a good writer take an obnoxious character that was given no real development and treating them like a real character with a real personality. Krakoa is a new start for so many characters, and I think John deserves one too. I'd like to see a down to earth person living on Krakoa.

I am, without any doubt, the wrong person to ask about this. I thought it was a mistake to bring back Jean Grey to launch X-Factor and I was against the resurrection of Bucky Barnes, and I still haven't changed my mind about either of them. So I don't see why John Proudstar deserves a new start, especially if he is going to have a completely different personality and outlook. Why not use a different, already existing character to fulfill the role of a "normal person" or create a new one? Especially if you don't want to have him burdened with the baggage of the old Thunderbird identity? It would also avoid some of the continuity problems that might require a major overhaul with his return (he was, in his original incarnation, an angry Viet Nam war veteran, which made him interesting in the 1970s, but a bit dated and harder to accommodate today).

John unfortunately was never fleshed out as a character, and what defining traits he had either weren't exactly unique. One of the reasons his creators decided to kill him off was because his powers and abilities (super strength and speed, enhanced senses) were to a large extent duplicated by other members (especially Wolverine) and his defining character traits, anger and arrogance, was also shared with some of the others. At the time of his first appearance he was remarkable as the first Native American X-person, but since then we've had Dani Moonstar, Shaman, Snowbird, Talisman, James Proudstar, Forge etc. etc. (There had already been several Native American characters in other Marvel books before 1975, e.g. Ringo Kid (half-white), Wyatt Wingfoot, and three men calling themselves Red Wolf).

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